It was a one-trick pony that didn't work. The one trick was getting people to think they'd see a realistic Civil War, but word go out that it wasn't that. People would have gone to see a political statement, though I don't know that it would've made it to theaters.
In a way, it reminds me of the jingoism of movies like Independence Day. The milquetoast cultural constant used to be "America, fuck yeah." Now it's "America, we're all screwed." Talking about our problems is a bridge too far, but you can try to bank on the general idea that we've got lots of them. That transition is something.
How as Independence Day jingoistic? It was people vs. aliens, and the USA gets its shit ruined just like the rest of the world.
The closest you could get to an "America, fuck yeah!" message is that the U.S. figures out how to destroy the motherships first. Somehow the rest of the world also successfully destroys them without advanced military hardware.
The President. The F-16s. The whole name "Independence Day." It was definitely a movie about the United States. Realistically, they just roped in the whole rest of the world in a montage at the end. That's how I felt it was played at the time. Zeitgeist or something? I'd have to even look when that came out.
If the story were X-COM, I'd agree with you about humans vs aliens. They should make a movie about that.
Agree with what you said, but to be correct, those are F-18s in the movie, not F-16s.
Except for the part where Will Smith makes his way back to his "Navy" base, and you can see an F-16 tail sticking out of the wreckage, with "LF" on it, indicating it is from Luke AFB.
Agree with what you said, but to be correct, those are F-18s in the movie, not F-16s.
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Except for the part where Will Smith makes his way back to his "Navy" base, and you can see an F-16 tail sticking out of the wreckage, with "LF" on it, indicating it is from Luke AFB.
Odd that they did that. I've been close to Luke and seen the F-16s :) And in Texas. It's probably why I generically refer to fighter jets as F-16s. Funny place for a Naval base, lol.
It was a one-trick pony that didn't work. The one trick was getting people to think they'd see a realistic Civil War, but word go out that it wasn't that. People would have gone to see a political statement, though I don't know that it would've made it to theaters.
In a way, it reminds me of the jingoism of movies like Independence Day. The milquetoast cultural constant used to be "America, fuck yeah." Now it's "America, we're all screwed." Talking about our problems is a bridge too far, but you can try to bank on the general idea that we've got lots of them. That transition is something.
How as Independence Day jingoistic? It was people vs. aliens, and the USA gets its shit ruined just like the rest of the world.
The closest you could get to an "America, fuck yeah!" message is that the U.S. figures out how to destroy the motherships first. Somehow the rest of the world also successfully destroys them without advanced military hardware.
The President. The F-16s. The whole name "Independence Day." It was definitely a movie about the United States. Realistically, they just roped in the whole rest of the world in a montage at the end. That's how I felt it was played at the time. Zeitgeist or something? I'd have to even look when that came out.
If the story were X-COM, I'd agree with you about humans vs aliens. They should make a movie about that.
Agree with what you said, but to be correct, those are F-18s in the movie, not F-16s.
Except for the part where Will Smith makes his way back to his "Navy" base, and you can see an F-16 tail sticking out of the wreckage, with "LF" on it, indicating it is from Luke AFB.
That always bothered me for some reason.
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Odd that they did that. I've been close to Luke and seen the F-16s :) And in Texas. It's probably why I generically refer to fighter jets as F-16s. Funny place for a Naval base, lol.