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Today I leaned that Francisco Franco and Augusto Pinochet are left wing while Bill Ayers, Emma Goldman and Pol Pot are right wing.
posted 1 year ago by CatoTheElder 1 year ago by CatoTheElder +21 / -6
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– RaceCreatesCulture 3 points 1 year ago +5 / -2

Thinking right-wing = 0 government is a foolish way of looking at left/right because I'll tell you right now, the average left anarchist wants a completely different looking society than your average right libertarian. Just like how there's a significant difference between National Socialism and Modern Communism.

What really throws off the high vs. low government people is that you can have an absolute power government with very limited impact on the economy whereas you can have a "democracy" with lots of "mAh fReEdOms" that has significant economic impact on the economy. Just because a government has absolute power doesn't mean it enforces it absolutely. And just because a government's power is minimized by constitutions doesn't mean the government isn't corrupt and will still maximize its use of power regardless.

The USA today is more "left-wing" under the government power metric than the British Monarchy was before the revolution. Today, the argument is well I can at least criticize the president without being executed. Sure, I guess... but you can't even go fishing without a license or you get fined. I don't know about you but I'd rather be able to go fishing without a license than care about calling Biden an invalid. The way in which the government today uses its power is worse than the way the government used its power historically.

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– Hellsbells00 -1 points 1 year ago +2 / -3

Right wing is a preference towards less government power. The extreme end of that is anarchism.

The current US government is very left wing. It is not as leftist as a monarchy. It is also very possible for democracy to be left aligned. None of these things are contradictory. That is why the simple scale works, where the reddit political "compass" does not. It correctly measures ideologies, instead of applying relative cultural shit.

For example, there is no "left libertarian". That is bullshit. Those goons don't hold to any actual principles of reduced government in any reasonable scale, they just want their drugs and legalized faggotry. They have no libertarian ideology, they are not "left libertarian", they're just degenerates. There is also no "auth right". There is functionally very little difference in behavior between natsoc fags and commie fags. The primary difference is not their methods, practices or core ideological structures, only their targets.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 0 points 1 year ago +2 / -2

See, this is where you fail with your left/right distinction. A monarchy can in fact be extremely right-wing as per your scale.

To give you an example. Pretend I am an absolute monarchy and I say the only rules in society are simply, don't be an asshat. The end. No other rules. Occasionally, I utilize my power to have an asshat killed for being an asshat but that's it. You want to tell me that the USA with all its rules and government involvement in people's lives is more right-wing than me because it's a "dEmOcRaCy"? LMFAO.

I'm with you on suggesting that a government that uses its power to force changes in society is more authoritarian than a government that doesn't use its power to force changes but whether the government has power or not isn't a factor on "authoritarian". I would rather be ruled by a benevolent dictator with absolute power who used that power fairly rather than a corrupt fake-democracy like we have today in which the power is used to an extreme degree in a negative manner. If that makes me "left-wing" by your metric then great. That means I'm left-wing.

But your metric sucks because I want a society that would look NOTHING like what a communist left-winger wants. I am a National Capitalist who belies in class-based societies with an Imperium-style military dictatorship ruling the society; however, you would find under my leadership you would have more freedom than what you have today in the USA as long as you aren't an asshat.

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– Hellsbells00 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

my absolute power would be better than their absolute power, only the people I don't like would be put against the wall and killed

You want different things enforced by absolute rule but ultimately you want the same structure as other leftists, just with "your guy" in charge.

You really don't understand how politics works or the point of classification, or why the right left distinction exists. Or why right wing beliefs exist, at that. The only benevolent dictatorship that stays benevolent is one under a literal god. Leftists all share this slavering lust for the world to conform to their fantasy - right wing ideology recognizes and deals with human reality.

Actual right wing beliefs involve recognizing the nature of power and how it is inevitably corrupted. Knowing that the best way to preserve liberty is to deny the concentration of power entirely, to limit the government to only what is essential to preserve this. Your ideology is only superficially different from any other leftist.

And again, purist democracy is shit and I'm not defending it. It is not inherently right wing. Democracy is not an ideology, it is a singular element, like nationalism. You can have very right or left wing governments both be democracies, and the US is not supposed to be a democracy. Universal suffrage is a large part of the corruption of the US. You goons always want to argue against things I haven't said.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

The corruption is from the jews who have all the money and influence. Restricted suffrage wouldn't change the outcome.

And yes, I do want absolute power in the way I want which would be better than the way others want. I would never be corrupted because it's me and I'll always do what's best for me.

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