I see now in hindsight that he was always anti-white, but I didn't really see it at the time because he was more subtle back then and he also would gripe about the white guilt movies.
I viewed him as one of the lone brave truth tellers, particularly about feminism and women.
What a fall from grace he turned out to be. Brave is not how I'd describe Bill Burr.
I rarely am embarrassed for liking someone. In middle school, I, like all other middle schoolers at that time, thought Dane Cook was hilarious. Now I don't think he's the worst thing ever like he's made out to be, but I can see that it was more about perfect timing with Dane Cook. I was the exact right age for Dane Cook to be hilarious to me. I don't feel embarrassed because I understand the timing.
With Bill Burr, he actually makes you embarrassed you ever recommended him as someone who's "raw" and "tell's it like it is".
I mean it doesn't feel like that long ago I was doing that.
Also the guy who always said the government wants to eliminate people and drastically reduce the population goes all in for the vax and says people who don't get it are conspiratorial and whatever.
Has anyone so blatantly 180'd as Bill Burr?
Been in the comedy scene myself at one point, and got out because it seemed like 100% of the comedians I met were absolute trash fires emotionally. They all truly hated themselves, and literally not one of them came from a stable family household. Same goes with pro wrestlers.
That’s too bad. Can I ask you a question though? How much of that is you projecting? I only ask because I’ve recently come to recognize that the qualities I tend to loathe about others are the ones I hate about myself. It’s not an uncommon phenomenon.
I wouldn't say it was projecting, because I sat with these people, hubg out with them, helped them iron out bits. And at the core, it became evident that these people hated themselves, hated their parents, and in a lot of ways hated the world. My problem was, I couldn't relate. I wasn't nearly as cynical as they were. I didn't have that icy anger they held. Honestly, this is what led to me dropping out of the scene, because I felt like such an outsider, because I love and respect my parents, I've had a good life, and just couldn't see the world the way they saw it. The scene is cutthroat. Instead of wanting to help each other succeed, the scene promotes jealousy and backstabbing. This is why joke thieving is so prominent. I had jokes stolen, in ways so obvious that it changed how I saw comedy as an art form. These are angry, insecure people lashing out in a way that feeds their insecurities and/or narcissism. Be around it enough, and you'll either be revolted, or become one of them.
Thank you for the detailed reply. Well, that’s a bummer to hear. I’ve always been a pretty funny dude and I’ve wanted to try stand up for over a decade but just haven’t really gotten around to doing it. I was envisioning in my head that I would get to meet a lot of cool people, but what you’re saying makes sense. All of my old best friends were the funniest guys you could know, but we were all funny because that was how we dealt with our insecurities when we were growing up. I’ve put a lot of effort into addressing my issues but they never did… we’re not friends anymore.