actually, we just need women to stay out. men need "safe spaces" away from women. women change the dynamic. women bitch, hen-peck, and complain. women are concerned with male attention, not with whatever the male space is about. they're perfectly happy ruining it if it gains them attention and clout.
do not let them in. ruthlessly gatekeep or be prepared to find a new space/hobby/club/organization.
I'd agree with you, but occasionally, you'll get the (extremely) rare tomboy who is more of a guy than most of the guys.
And I don't mean posers, I mean somebody who you can tell is actually into whatever the hobby might be, and likes it just fine the way it is, thank you very much.
actually, we just need women to stay out. men need "safe spaces" away from women. women change the dynamic. women bitch, hen-peck, and complain. women are concerned with male attention, not with whatever the male space is about. they're perfectly happy ruining it if it gains them attention and clout.
do not let them in. ruthlessly gatekeep or be prepared to find a new space/hobby/club/organization.
I'd agree with you, but occasionally, you'll get the (extremely) rare tomboy who is more of a guy than most of the guys.
And I don't mean posers, I mean somebody who you can tell is actually into whatever the hobby might be, and likes it just fine the way it is, thank you very much.
sidenote: I think what we need are "unsafe spaces" more than 'safe' ones, lol.
More accurate to the purpose =D