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posted 2 years ago by LeRiverDanube 2 years ago by LeRiverDanube +52 / -0
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– Norenia 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

"Yasuke" is the modern "Pope Johanna." A figure someone tries desperately to prop up, when there is more than enough evidence to refute their entire existence.

Edit: Yes, I bring up Pope Johanna because she just became an important figure in the latest FGO (english) chapter. Where it actually acknowledges that was all she was.

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– FromTheShadows 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

And even if everything we hear about him was true, then he would barely qualify as a historical footnote. It's fucking pathetic.

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– Norenia 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

Even in the most generous allowance, he would've only been a slave to Portuguese Jesuits trying to form relations with the Japanese. And apparently the research shows that Nobunaga never even met any Portuguese until MONTHS before his demise? No goddamn way could you fit in any story of "Yasuke being bought by Nobunaga and becoming a badass warrior retainer."

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– confed 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

sure lets say their precious monkey was nobunagas warrior... tell me what exactly did nobunaga do? what kind of tactics did he employ? what happened at Enryaku-ji temple? was that the kind of thing mr monkey excelled at??

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– Norenia 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It feels weird seeing you call him "monkey." "Monkey" was Hideyoshi Toyotomi, who WAS one of Nobunaga's retainers.

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– Adamrises 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Johanna was also a major figure in Persona 5, which is probably what caused a lot of the modern talk about her to resurface.

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– Norenia 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I remember that too. That said, the Phantom Thieves' Personas were, if not thievery, themed around deception.

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– Adamrises 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Right, but if memory serves the "deception" in that case was presented as a just thing she was doing to be a rebel (which was the theme for all of them, rebellion against authority) for some greater good.

Either way, considering how absurdly popular that game got amongst the Left I don't doubt its where a huge number of them even learned of her existence.

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