Now I know they've done zero research outside of seeing Andrew Tate and assuming he is the leader and as he is Muslim, therefore everyone else is Muslim.
Okay, I'll put in the caveat of #NotAllRedPillers however I think it's fair to point out that quite a few of the red pill podcasters I've seen at the very least seem very suspicious when it comes to preaching about Islam and they act like borderline glowies in a lot of cases. I bring this up because I find Fresh & Fit very suspicious as well and they've pointed out they're Muslim in the past too.
Maybe not the red pill movement itself because I know there can be a disconnect, but certainly the more high profile people tend to have links to Islam and will preach it at any given opportunity. I'm totally open to being pointed towards a red pill type that isn't a blatant Muslim and possible glowie lol.
You're being distracted by the shiny lights of Tate and Myron. The redpill can realistically be traced back like a decade and it's secular whites the whole way down. Hell, if you count Tom Leykis and Rush we're talking like 30 years now (although Leykis I think is of typical radio ethnicity). To this day, normal american voices predominate redpill spheres (hoe_math, rollo, sartain, etc).
I do get it, I hung out in MRA circles back in the day, so I do know even in passing that the red pill movement was not initially like this. However I don't think it can really be denied that they've been infiltrated by something else these days. I'm just pointing out even being someone who's looking at the red pill movement more charitably than the tradcucks this is what I'm seeing.
I think it's a combination of mainstream subversion and a dash of psyop honestly. I wouldn't describe myself as a redpiller, but my impression of content previous to FnF was that it was more research based and calculating whereas now the sphere is beginning to resemble more of an episode of Jerry Springer. This is the natural progression of things as they get popular, generally, but I also wouldn't be surprised if the powers that be have decided to merge redpill analysis into "inceldom" as a new vector by which to attack men attempting autonomy and feminist critique.
Now I know they've done zero research outside of seeing Andrew Tate and assuming he is the leader and as he is Muslim, therefore everyone else is Muslim.
Okay, I'll put in the caveat of #NotAllRedPillers however I think it's fair to point out that quite a few of the red pill podcasters I've seen at the very least seem very suspicious when it comes to preaching about Islam and they act like borderline glowies in a lot of cases. I bring this up because I find Fresh & Fit very suspicious as well and they've pointed out they're Muslim in the past too.
Maybe not the red pill movement itself because I know there can be a disconnect, but certainly the more high profile people tend to have links to Islam and will preach it at any given opportunity. I'm totally open to being pointed towards a red pill type that isn't a blatant Muslim and possible glowie lol.
You're being distracted by the shiny lights of Tate and Myron. The redpill can realistically be traced back like a decade and it's secular whites the whole way down. Hell, if you count Tom Leykis and Rush we're talking like 30 years now (although Leykis I think is of typical radio ethnicity). To this day, normal american voices predominate redpill spheres (hoe_math, rollo, sartain, etc).
I do get it, I hung out in MRA circles back in the day, so I do know even in passing that the red pill movement was not initially like this. However I don't think it can really be denied that they've been infiltrated by something else these days. I'm just pointing out even being someone who's looking at the red pill movement more charitably than the tradcucks this is what I'm seeing.
I think it's a combination of mainstream subversion and a dash of psyop honestly. I wouldn't describe myself as a redpiller, but my impression of content previous to FnF was that it was more research based and calculating whereas now the sphere is beginning to resemble more of an episode of Jerry Springer. This is the natural progression of things as they get popular, generally, but I also wouldn't be surprised if the powers that be have decided to merge redpill analysis into "inceldom" as a new vector by which to attack men attempting autonomy and feminist critique.