So i just completed the full initial run of Ultimate Marvel, from Ultimate Spider Man #1 to Ultimate End. And ive got some thoughts.
First of all. I started collecting phsycially when i was a kid, around Death of Spiderman. The only ultimate comic i read was Ultimate Comics X-Men, which was one of those "your book got canceled heres this other one" for my X Men Legacy subscription. That quickly became my favorite book, despite hating Kitty, i really loved the reservation concept, the sentient seed. That whole piece, which makes it a crime that it really only lasted about 4 issues. Having read the entire series now. Hot damn were they obsessed with Kitty.
I wont go through the whole of Ultimate, other than that the transition from Vol 1 to Vol 2 of Ultimate spider man was horrible.
I will say, folks the cracks were there. All New Ultimates finished in 2014 and it is top 3 worst runs of any book ive ever read. Packed full of the "teenies angsting with shit art" the sitcom "oh hey im actually gay" lets break up for no reason oh were back togehter for no reason soap opera fest.
"Right wing" militia as a stomped villian that even the Scourge hates because "im not racist! I just kills criminals, and suggesting theres a demographic there is racist!"
The evil corporation is messing up the usually totally fine drug trade by POSIONING it. Yeah thats how you run a business, murder your customers.
I hate cloak and dagger, bombshell is the stupidest fuck after "black widow," and miles... it really shows you how much the writer matters. Miles' first run is as enjoyable as any other book ive ready. In All New Ultimates he reminds me why im racist.
I especially hate bombshells whiny drug dealer boyfriend drama. Its supposed to be totally radical, and its "real" in the sense thay yeah ive met people like her. But they were stupid retaded fucks, and i hated them too.
/rant
Amusingly, my wake-up call came from the r/atheism sub. I read through it as catharsis and kept seeing these "Mens Rights" guys getting made fun of, and someone dropped a link to r/mensrights so I went to check it out thinking that it should be a bunch of idiots to dunk on.
Turned out they had legitimate points and the enlightened atheists were just a bunch of ignorant bigots. Then Elevatorgate happened and what little regard I had in my then-mostly-neutral stance on feminism was obliterated. Then Atheism+ pushed me into FTSU mode.
What's sad is the Men's Rights sub was so milquetoast and innocent that their reaction to it was a wake up on its own.
Those guys were basically a crumb of pussy away from going right back to the Left, and their rhetoric was mostly angry venting instead of a legitimate ideology.