I knew I liked them for a reason other than they fit a criteria of women I'd like to date, they get attacked from both right and left like the gamers, men and autists..
Going on from this video from Dev, there seems to a weird attack on them from the more 'manosphere' right where they are saying it's gay to like tomboys (because it's emasculating going out with a woman that works out or likes to help in men roles)
This is weird as on the flip side we have the very known left angle where they basically see tomboys and to a degree femboys as not fully transed and we need to cut their tits off to make them men
Both sides are equally retarded..
It's weird as on the one side, I think they're attacked by the left because tomboys prefer the company of men beyond a purely sexual relationship so are more inclined to be on their side and on the right I'm guessing it's because they aren't the submissive trophy wives they're supposed to be??
It's a weird horseshoe, just let the tomboys hang out with men and quit trying to doll them up or maim them..
The right have blinders on on some of this stuff for sure. They're overgeneralizing and missing the forest for the trees. Here's the thing: I wouldn't want every girl to be a tomboy. That would be obnoxious. So the tradcons or whoever are at least partially right on the matter, they just go about it wrong and try to force it on everyone. Part of what makes tomboys so beloved is that they're not the norm. The more "traditional" people (who, as you said, often can't even live up to their own ideals) need to leave the outliers alone if they're not harming anyone. They should keep clamping down on the actual degenerates (trannies, feminists, communists), and leave the tomboys be.
It really is weird. The left uses individualism as a wedge to drive collectivism. They claim to hate individualism, but also use the worst aspects of it to drive their collectivist nightmare.
I don't think I said that. In fact, we could use a few more tomboys.
It's funny, some of the "traditionalists" are so into gender roles they're horseshoeing. Similar to how leftists are utopianists who don't work in the framework of reality, the ideal trad world can't work because perfect is the enemy of good. They want shape it so everyone woman is feminine, when that doesn't really work given the state of modern women. You can't go from this to trad across the board, and I think "tomboy" would actually help fill in some of the gaps. As others have mentioned, one of the advantages of tomboys is they want to hang out with the guys, so they end up understanding men better than some more feminine women.
Totally agreed. They'll never be as accountable as men, but it would certainly be a good thing to bring some accountability back to women. And some of that does take the shape of less "feminine" things like hard work and understanding men.
It's amazing how crucial this stuff is, and it's a big part of the problem. Entitled generations are raising entitled children, and a lot of people are just generally being shit parents now. Honestly, wish I'd had a bit more of that growing up
Very true, if it was ALL tomboys then it'd be annoying, they supposed to be more of an outlier like goths and emos which they've seem to disappear a lot more..
I'd agree but add that a lot of those trannies are tomboys, autists and other outliers that DIDN'T escape the indoctrination. The rates of detransistion and suicide prove that to be the case.