The war on tomboys...from both right and left

posted 286 days ago by SoctaticMethod1 286 days ago by SoctaticMethod1 +50 / -3

I knew I liked them for a reason other than they fit a criteria of women I'd like to date, they get attacked from both right and left like the gamers, men and autists..

Going on from this video from Dev, there seems to a weird attack on them from the more 'manosphere' right where they are saying it's gay to like tomboys (because it's emasculating going out with a woman that works out or likes to help in men roles)

This is weird as on the flip side we have the very known left angle where they basically see tomboys and to a degree femboys as not fully transed and we need to cut their tits off to make them men

Both sides are equally retarded..

It's weird as on the one side, I think they're attacked by the left because tomboys prefer the company of men beyond a purely sexual relationship so are more inclined to be on their side and on the right I'm guessing it's because they aren't the submissive trophy wives they're supposed to be??

It's a weird horseshoe, just let the tomboys hang out with men and quit trying to doll them up or maim them..

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– Kienan 7 points 286 days ago +7 / -0

I will say though I think you might be overestimating how bad it would be to have more girls be like tomboys.

I don't think I said that. In fact, we could use a few more tomboys.

...but if more women had a spirit of hard work in them like a lot of men do, I believe things would be less bad than they are now.

It's funny, some of the "traditionalists" are so into gender roles they're horseshoeing. Similar to how leftists are utopianists who don't work in the framework of reality, the ideal trad world can't work because perfect is the enemy of good. They want shape it so everyone woman is feminine, when that doesn't really work given the state of modern women. You can't go from this to trad across the board, and I think "tomboy" would actually help fill in some of the gaps. As others have mentioned, one of the advantages of tomboys is they want to hang out with the guys, so they end up understanding men better than some more feminine women.

Femininity is certainly important and vital, but I feel one of the things that got us into this mess was basically spoiling our women, and giving them everything they wanted (or at least claimed to want) without a shred of accountability or responsibility with it.

Totally agreed. They'll never be as accountable as men, but it would certainly be a good thing to bring some accountability back to women. And some of that does take the shape of less "feminine" things like hard work and understanding men.

I've seen this behavior in some of my extended family and the difference is jarring when compared to my close family, imo. My grandparents both worked themselves crazy and yet somehow still found time to do all the typical, expected responsibilities of parenting (including my grandmother, who worked long hours as a nurse) and raise both my parents/aunt/uncle, and eventually my siblings and I.

It's amazing how crucial this stuff is, and it's a big part of the problem. Entitled generations are raising entitled children, and a lot of people are just generally being shit parents now. Honestly, wish I'd had a bit more of that growing up

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