I'm going to go slightly against the grain here and, from some personal experience, say that some girl-puts-makeup-on-guy play can be fun and not degrading, IF the guy plays it well.
Do you think Chad cares if some silly girl puts some makeup on him? Is he going to get butthurt and upset over a little makeup? No, treat them as seriously as a dad treats his little kid who put makeup on him, etc.
I don't follow redpill, but aren't two of the core tenets "be fun, be attractive?"
[Twitter poster "ahnifollett" whose pinterest is "bisexual witch" and whose twitter doesn't exist, sounds like loads of fun]
Your perspective only works if the only two options are to allow it or to overreact aggressively. In that case of course option 2 looks like a sperg and is in a far worse place than simply allowing it.
You know what women, and sometimes children, also like, crave and need? Boundaries, and being told no.
Unless you want to be wearing the makeup yourself, which is a whole different set of problems, then you are caving into her stupid demands which have no value but whimsy and granting her that power over you. Which is a lose regardless of how you spin it.
No. The core tenets are to improve yourself, hold frame, be stoic, and take no shit. AKA the exact opposite of what you are advocating for.
Ugh, typo.
I disagree though. Back when trp, asktrp, mrp, etc., were active, "be attractive, be fun" were chanted all the time. Usually in the context of "fake it till you make it." Fair enough that "improve yourself" is probably the most pure and central ideal.
To use trp terminology, if you "lose frame" over a makeup play "shit test" and can't "be fun" then, well, it's probably pretty clear why you're in the situation you're in.
If you're taking her that seriously, you fucked up.
I'm going to go slightly against the grain here and, from some personal experience, say that some girl-puts-makeup-on-guy play can be fun and not degrading, IF the guy plays it well.
Do you think Chad cares if some silly girl puts some makeup on him? Is he going to get butthurt and upset over a little makeup? No, treat them as seriously as a dad treats his little kid who put makeup on him, etc.
I don't follow redpill, but aren't two of the core tenets "be fun, be attractive?"
[Twitter poster "ahnifollett" whose pinterest is "bisexual witch" and whose twitter doesn't exist, sounds like loads of fun]
Your perspective only works if the only two options are to allow it or to overreact aggressively. In that case of course option 2 looks like a sperg and is in a far worse place than simply allowing it.
You know what women, and sometimes children, also like, crave and need? Boundaries, and being told no.
Unless you want to be wearing the makeup yourself, which is a whole different set of problems, then you are caving into her stupid demands which have no value but whimsy and granting her that power over you. Which is a lose regardless of how you spin it.
Ugh, typo.
I disagree though. Back when trp, asktrp, mrp, etc., were active, "be attractive, be fun" were chanted all the time. Usually in the context of "fake it till you make it." Fair enough that "improve yourself" is probably the most pure and central ideal.
To use trp terminology, if you "lose frame" over a makeup play "shit test" and can't "be fun" then, well, it's probably pretty clear why you're in the situation you're in.
If you're taking her that seriously, you fucked up.