I see this all the time when trolling through the firearm forums on reddit - the joke about 'liberal gun owners' being 'temporary gun owners' is almost always true. Ask them what they'd do if thier guy made guns illegal, and 99% of the time they'd just fall over themselves giving up those guns they bought to protect themselves from all those scary conservatives.
Pandering to your enemy does not work, and it just pisses off your constituents when you try to make compromises to court a larger base that only go one way.
I see this all the time when trolling through the firearm forums on reddit - the joke about 'liberal gun owners' being 'temporary gun owners' is almost always true.
But you discount how many of them become conservatives. There are many leftists in Europe who are critical of immigration. There are fewer of them each year, because some of them go to the right and some of them start following the party line.
Pandering to your enemy does not work
I didn't talk about pandering. I talked about circumstances where people who disagree with you on most issues can still be very useful to one cause.
and it just pisses off your constituents when you try to make compromises to court a larger base that only go one way.
It requires no compromise. Just for people to keep their spaghetti in your pocket. If someone is a liberal on all issues, but has seen the light on transgenderism, he can be very useful.
But you discount how many of them become conservatives.
I've never seen them turn conservative.
It's always some distribution of 'I'm [insert-right-leaning buzzword here] BUT-' that basically code word for 'I like this thing but going to vote it away at the voting both, every time'.
Even the ones that are of the 'I used to be a liberal but the overton window keeps shifting' eventually has a mask-off moment. Like clockwork.
If they exist, they're in the minority, and I have no patience to pander to minorities.
Europe
I'm not talking about Europe, and I don't care about them. They're big boys and can take care of themselves. I'm more focused on my own backyard, thanks.
Even the ones that are of the 'I used to be a liberal but the overton window keeps shifting' eventually has a mask-off moment. Like clockwork.
You mean something that you disagree with. It's not the same as a "mask off" moment, which suggests deception on their part. It makes sense that people who used to be a liberal except for them getting more extreme would not agree with you on everything.
I'm not talking about Europe, and I don't care about them. They're big boys and can take care of themselves. I'm more focused on my own backyard, thanks.
I'm giving an example, not demanding that you care about Europe.
This will never work.
I see this all the time when trolling through the firearm forums on reddit - the joke about 'liberal gun owners' being 'temporary gun owners' is almost always true. Ask them what they'd do if thier guy made guns illegal, and 99% of the time they'd just fall over themselves giving up those guns they bought to protect themselves from all those scary conservatives.
Pandering to your enemy does not work, and it just pisses off your constituents when you try to make compromises to court a larger base that only go one way.
But you discount how many of them become conservatives. There are many leftists in Europe who are critical of immigration. There are fewer of them each year, because some of them go to the right and some of them start following the party line.
I didn't talk about pandering. I talked about circumstances where people who disagree with you on most issues can still be very useful to one cause.
It requires no compromise. Just for people to keep their spaghetti in your pocket. If someone is a liberal on all issues, but has seen the light on transgenderism, he can be very useful.
I've never seen them turn conservative.
It's always some distribution of 'I'm [insert-right-leaning buzzword here] BUT-' that basically code word for 'I like this thing but going to vote it away at the voting both, every time'.
Even the ones that are of the 'I used to be a liberal but the overton window keeps shifting' eventually has a mask-off moment. Like clockwork.
If they exist, they're in the minority, and I have no patience to pander to minorities.
I'm not talking about Europe, and I don't care about them. They're big boys and can take care of themselves. I'm more focused on my own backyard, thanks.
You mean something that you disagree with. It's not the same as a "mask off" moment, which suggests deception on their part. It makes sense that people who used to be a liberal except for them getting more extreme would not agree with you on everything.
I'm giving an example, not demanding that you care about Europe.