Claiming that a black user wasn't sperging out 24/7 to earn favor with the white people here. Ignoring, of course, that the way you earn favor with white people is to sperg about non-existent racism.
Ya know i'm not even gonna bother linking the bible verse that says it's ok to kill someone for lying with someone of the same sex.
It's still an action. It's not 'gay people', which is what you call people who are attracted to the same sex. Regardless, the Old Testament penal law is irrelevant for Christians. And before you make the tired old ignorant argument about shellfish, so is the ceremonial law. Only the moral law is applicable - meaning that homosexuality is considered immoral in Christianity, but there is no prescription for civil authorities on how to deal with it.
and often link it to... well that's putting mildly believe all gay people are pedophiles... and apparently disagreeing with that concept makes me a horrible person here. go figure.
Well, that's stupid. But why are you so concerned about what a bunch of marginalized people believe? Are you trying to save their souls?
the christians here clearly hate gay people.
The "Christians here" aren't exactly representative of Christianity, insofar that they are Christians. There's one guy who claims to be a Christian who says that he hopes that the Jews and Arabs (a significant minority of whom are Christians) just kill each other because they are "enemies of his race". Few ideas would be more anti-Christian and modern than that.
you are defending people who wanna strip away right from pedophiles i mean gay people
Which rights? Who decides that these are 'rights'? Obviously, what you call gay people are not universally or even mostly pedophiles, but the concept of 'gay rights' is very modern, and I reject modernity.
I'm willing to believe your an atheist posing as a christian then you actually being a christian to be honest.
You got it part right, in that I am an atheist, though not posing as a Christian. However, I do think that Christianity should be the foundation for Western civilization. I used to think that a world without religion would be more humane and rational, and then the concept of 'pregnant man' appeared.
I don't. The ones I appreciate or appreciated to some extent in the past often do critique Islam, and in fact, do so appropriately more so than Christianity. Folks like Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris (who was bearable before his TDS).
That said, this does not apply to Reddit-tier 'atheists', who are just anti-Christian. You may have the justification that you're talking to people who (you think) are mostly Christians, in mostly attacking Christianity, but they don't.
it's not
You got in someone's mind so much that he decided to create an account just to attack you.
24/7 seems like a stretch bro. i atleast take a few days off from my sperging. and what non-existent racism? you mean against white people or non white people? i am legit confused by that last part
The kind people like Ta Nehisi Coates and Nicole Hannah Jones and the rest of the three name brigade cry about. The way to success, fame and being adored by white people is to make up racism and complain about white people.
Normally i would go over all of this but it just dawned on me your bi sexual and probably lean more towards men then women. and i don't feel comfortable having a debate on this topic who's sexually repressed their gay side.
What a stupid comment. If I say that I'm bisexual, I'm obviously not "repressed" anything. In fact, you said that you don't like that you have homosexual desires, while I have no problem with it.
Fact is, you simply have no counter to what I have posted, and you try the cheap way out the same way you attempted to discredit Smith, which is really pathetic.
yet consider being gay an illness.
You're simply making up stuff.
religion as a concept is neither good nor bad. the past had it's problem under religion. like the future without religion will certainly have it's own set of problems
Correct. But like I said, the problem is with the idea that a world without religion is an improvement. While you try to blame 'pregnant men' on religious leftists, this sort of nonsense - and many other things - were never taken seriously when religion was.
And if your gonna use the "modern bad" excuse. then your cherry picking how barbaric we humans were at a time when religion was at it's highest.
Not at all, but it's clearly not necessary to be barbaric to take religion seriously. You can't really compare the state of man before the industrial revolution to today, and conclude that any change must be due to changes in attitude towards religion.
not to mention most if not of everyone today is religious but is doing dumb shit
I know barely anyone who is religious here in Europe.
Eh more so critiquing it. also, if many of the critiques i do is considered attacking. then they really need to shut the fuck about islam and the jews. because if critiquing is attack. but only for their! religion. then they have no leg to stand on.
Well, they should shut up about the Jews, insofar as it's usually completely irrelevant to any topic. That is the way you talked about it. Suddenly, there was a topic out of the blue, saying BIBLE BAD. That is not really a 'critique', that is just an attack. Now, if there is a terrorist attack and I criticize Islam as a result, yeah, that is appropriate. And frankly, it deserves to be (verbally) attacked. Why does Christianity deserve to be attacked?
Because I pointed out that the path to white people loving you is to whine about racism, like these blacks, and not point out reality, like Coleman Hughes, John McWhorter, Thomas Sowell and many other whose intellect is vastly greater than the clowns worshiped by whites?
i remember you saying something to the effect of. "while it would be nice for gay people to be out and openly gay with the degeneracy. it's long past that point. and i don't mind gay people going back into the closet if society can go back to normal" or something like that.
Yeah, I do think that what is happening right now is a vastly greater evil than homosexuals being in the closet. Civilization has survived the latter. Can we survive the former? Perhaps you will argue that it is 'unfair'. But there is no rule that life has to be fair. People are born with all sorts of things that screws them over in life.
You have a problem with gay people, and default to the bible to give you guidance
Neither is true. I don't have a problem with "gay people" (I don't think this should be an identity), nor with people who practice homosexuality. I have a problem with how the acceptance of homosexuality has opened the floodgates, or at least has coincided with, the opening of the floodgates of degeneracy.
instead of addressing why the gays act the way they do now. could be they pushed to fringe of society due to religion.
Then you would expect homosexuals to become more normal as their practices are more accepted. Maybe it is too soon to tell, but it certainly does not seem that way to me. With acceptance now taken for granted, it seems to be going the other way, and pushing the envelope with degeneracy like transgenderism, grooming and perversion.
What argument? and i didn't discredit smith. all i did was claim, that being black here is fine... if you suck enough white dicks.
You apologized to him only to accuse him now of 'sucking enough white dicks'? See, this is why no one likes you, and everyone likes him. Because you are obnoxious as hell if taken seriously, and he is quite possibly the most pleasant fellow here.
really? you don't see anything wrong with being gay?
That was not your claim. You claimed I see it as an illness, or something like that. You have nothing with which to back it up.
As for it being bad, I think it is bad on a societal level, not on an individual level. On an individual level, I only despise the activists.
Yeah but under religious hierarchy things like: tourettes, schizophrenia, autism. and other medical illnesses were treated as if they were the works of evil spirits...
You don't say, when people did not know what the hell was going on, they made up explanations that made no sense. If you're going to blame religion for this, you should blame medicine for bloodletting - as humors was the leading medical theory until recently.
neither religion, nor non-religion is perfect.
You said all crazy that to come to this eminently reasonable conclusion? C'mon. At least say religion is much worse than Nazism. With your statement I agree.
wanna oppose pregnant fucking man? you can do that as either an atheist or a believer. you don't need to be apart of something to oppose stupid.
I agree. But why are we moving towards 'pregnant men' as religion is being lost? Like with what you call 'being gay', this is not bad on the individual level (as an atheist may be more reasonable than a believer, like I am), but on a social level - it seems that if you don't believe in religion, you will fall for anything. Certainly, our descent into madness as religion is lost does not suggest that loss of religion is doing a great amount of good.
You do know some religious people view homsexuality as a mental illness right?
Depends on how you define mental illness. But it is a strange way for religious people to deal with a sin.
again man just admit that religion isn't perfect
Done. Religion isn't perfect. Now admit that we've gone to absolute hell since religion started declining.
Yeah but why was it barbaric in the first place? that should be where your mind should be going to when your wanting to impose religion as a culture norm. just saying.
Why was it.
and claiming any progress we made in this society was because of religion, instead of despite of it.
I never claimed that. Why do you keep making stuff up?
Yeah i don't know where you live in the EU buddy but... your full of shit man. and i know this is old being 2018 and all. but it seems like instead doing research. you just run your mouth.
Doesn't even work, but yeah, as for the people I know, almost no one is religious. You didn't think I was claiming to know the entire population, right?
Good question. because the people who are in support of the bible say and do dumb shit.
Wait, so let me get this straight. If people here liked the works of Shakespeare, and said 'dumb shit', you would be criticizing Shakespeare? What a weird way to go about things.
the gay thing being one. abortion being another. and race mixing... which alot of racist christians bring up...
It's just stuff you disagree with. It is not "dumb shit". I'm also pro-abortion, but I don't think people are dumb if they disagree with me as you do in your arrogance.
just because you agree with some tenets of the bible. doesn't mean everyone else does.
Well, you do. If you oppose so called 'racism', then that is a residue of Christian values. There is no Jew or Greek in Christ, after all, and Jesus is said to have commanded to make disciples of all the nations of the world.
Because people posing as me trying to ruin my life is a bad thing.
They're not 'ruining your life', or having any effect on your life.
it's like your saying if someone shits on me. that's a good thing.
Well, yeah. You think I mind downvotes?
so i would like it if you could just block me ok buddy? i don't block people. that's weak sauce, but i do take great pride when people block me so that's one less asshole i have to talk to.
If I'm the 'asshole' either on this forum or in this conversation, there is something seriously wrong with you. And if you take pride in being blocked, then you understand my argument that it's a mark of pride in having someone get so mad to create fake accounts - as they've also done for me.
Claiming that a black user wasn't sperging out 24/7 to earn favor with the white people here. Ignoring, of course, that the way you earn favor with white people is to sperg about non-existent racism.
It's still an action. It's not 'gay people', which is what you call people who are attracted to the same sex. Regardless, the Old Testament penal law is irrelevant for Christians. And before you make the tired old ignorant argument about shellfish, so is the ceremonial law. Only the moral law is applicable - meaning that homosexuality is considered immoral in Christianity, but there is no prescription for civil authorities on how to deal with it.
Well, that's stupid. But why are you so concerned about what a bunch of marginalized people believe? Are you trying to save their souls?
The "Christians here" aren't exactly representative of Christianity, insofar that they are Christians. There's one guy who claims to be a Christian who says that he hopes that the Jews and Arabs (a significant minority of whom are Christians) just kill each other because they are "enemies of his race". Few ideas would be more anti-Christian and modern than that.
Which rights? Who decides that these are 'rights'? Obviously, what you call gay people are not universally or even mostly pedophiles, but the concept of 'gay rights' is very modern, and I reject modernity.
You got it part right, in that I am an atheist, though not posing as a Christian. However, I do think that Christianity should be the foundation for Western civilization. I used to think that a world without religion would be more humane and rational, and then the concept of 'pregnant man' appeared.
I don't. The ones I appreciate or appreciated to some extent in the past often do critique Islam, and in fact, do so appropriately more so than Christianity. Folks like Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris (who was bearable before his TDS).
That said, this does not apply to Reddit-tier 'atheists', who are just anti-Christian. You may have the justification that you're talking to people who (you think) are mostly Christians, in mostly attacking Christianity, but they don't.
You got in someone's mind so much that he decided to create an account just to attack you.
The kind people like Ta Nehisi Coates and Nicole Hannah Jones and the rest of the three name brigade cry about. The way to success, fame and being adored by white people is to make up racism and complain about white people.
What a stupid comment. If I say that I'm bisexual, I'm obviously not "repressed" anything. In fact, you said that you don't like that you have homosexual desires, while I have no problem with it.
Fact is, you simply have no counter to what I have posted, and you try the cheap way out the same way you attempted to discredit Smith, which is really pathetic.
You're simply making up stuff.
Correct. But like I said, the problem is with the idea that a world without religion is an improvement. While you try to blame 'pregnant men' on religious leftists, this sort of nonsense - and many other things - were never taken seriously when religion was.
Not at all, but it's clearly not necessary to be barbaric to take religion seriously. You can't really compare the state of man before the industrial revolution to today, and conclude that any change must be due to changes in attitude towards religion.
I know barely anyone who is religious here in Europe.
Well, they should shut up about the Jews, insofar as it's usually completely irrelevant to any topic. That is the way you talked about it. Suddenly, there was a topic out of the blue, saying BIBLE BAD. That is not really a 'critique', that is just an attack. Now, if there is a terrorist attack and I criticize Islam as a result, yeah, that is appropriate. And frankly, it deserves to be (verbally) attacked. Why does Christianity deserve to be attacked?
Why?
Because I pointed out that the path to white people loving you is to whine about racism, like these blacks, and not point out reality, like Coleman Hughes, John McWhorter, Thomas Sowell and many other whose intellect is vastly greater than the clowns worshiped by whites?
Yeah, I do think that what is happening right now is a vastly greater evil than homosexuals being in the closet. Civilization has survived the latter. Can we survive the former? Perhaps you will argue that it is 'unfair'. But there is no rule that life has to be fair. People are born with all sorts of things that screws them over in life.
Neither is true. I don't have a problem with "gay people" (I don't think this should be an identity), nor with people who practice homosexuality. I have a problem with how the acceptance of homosexuality has opened the floodgates, or at least has coincided with, the opening of the floodgates of degeneracy.
Then you would expect homosexuals to become more normal as their practices are more accepted. Maybe it is too soon to tell, but it certainly does not seem that way to me. With acceptance now taken for granted, it seems to be going the other way, and pushing the envelope with degeneracy like transgenderism, grooming and perversion.
You apologized to him only to accuse him now of 'sucking enough white dicks'? See, this is why no one likes you, and everyone likes him. Because you are obnoxious as hell if taken seriously, and he is quite possibly the most pleasant fellow here.
That was not your claim. You claimed I see it as an illness, or something like that. You have nothing with which to back it up.
As for it being bad, I think it is bad on a societal level, not on an individual level. On an individual level, I only despise the activists.
You don't say, when people did not know what the hell was going on, they made up explanations that made no sense. If you're going to blame religion for this, you should blame medicine for bloodletting - as humors was the leading medical theory until recently.
You said all crazy that to come to this eminently reasonable conclusion? C'mon. At least say religion is much worse than Nazism. With your statement I agree.
I agree. But why are we moving towards 'pregnant men' as religion is being lost? Like with what you call 'being gay', this is not bad on the individual level (as an atheist may be more reasonable than a believer, like I am), but on a social level - it seems that if you don't believe in religion, you will fall for anything. Certainly, our descent into madness as religion is lost does not suggest that loss of religion is doing a great amount of good.
Depends on how you define mental illness. But it is a strange way for religious people to deal with a sin.
Done. Religion isn't perfect. Now admit that we've gone to absolute hell since religion started declining.
Why was it.
I never claimed that. Why do you keep making stuff up?
Doesn't even work, but yeah, as for the people I know, almost no one is religious. You didn't think I was claiming to know the entire population, right?
Wait, so let me get this straight. If people here liked the works of Shakespeare, and said 'dumb shit', you would be criticizing Shakespeare? What a weird way to go about things.
It's just stuff you disagree with. It is not "dumb shit". I'm also pro-abortion, but I don't think people are dumb if they disagree with me as you do in your arrogance.
Well, you do. If you oppose so called 'racism', then that is a residue of Christian values. There is no Jew or Greek in Christ, after all, and Jesus is said to have commanded to make disciples of all the nations of the world.
They're not 'ruining your life', or having any effect on your life.
Well, yeah. You think I mind downvotes?
If I'm the 'asshole' either on this forum or in this conversation, there is something seriously wrong with you. And if you take pride in being blocked, then you understand my argument that it's a mark of pride in having someone get so mad to create fake accounts - as they've also done for me.