I listened to you plenty, and even agreed with parts of what you said. Your response was to slam one of our most pleasant users based on scummy and incorrect reasoning.
atleast when i critique/mock christianity.I critique your holy book. typically surrounding gay people.
I am amazed that this is somehow the most important issue. By the way, Christians are right about homosexuality. They say nothing about 'gay people', who do not exist - desiring to have relations with a given gender does not put you in a separate ontological category. They disapprove of homosexuality, and if one looks at the past few years, one can see why. It was the trojan horse for a complete collapse in gender norms.
You can say that society should not approve of homosexuality without looking down on people who do engage in that behavior, some of whom are very worthy, like David Starkey. And that is the attitude of Christians.
Never once! did i make a post saying it's bad to be a christian.
And perhaps you didn't. If you didn't, then I don't understand why you take such issue with Christian attitudes towards homosexuality. You say Christianity is bad, but it's not bad to be Christian. While Christians say that homosexuality is bad, but it is not bad to have such inclinations.
say being christian makes you responsible for the horrendous shit! your religion did throughout history
Religions don't do 'horrendous shit'. People do. In some cases, it's arguable whether the teachings of the religion are responsible.
how many people here hate jews. but i never see one of you mother fuckers defend them. ya know? against people who want to do physical harm to jewish people.
No? You must not have noticed my comments about the Jews.
and their's very little, to no muslims here. if their were i'd be just up their ass, as i am yours.
Maybe, but experience shows that people who are very critical of Christianity remain silent in the face of Islam, even where there are many Muslims, as in Europe - and in fact often defend Islam and Muslims.
i love how their's someone impersonating me called u/Bluestorrn pretty cleaver using 2 R's and an N to make it look like an RM. rrn very creative... you, FUCKING BASTARD!
Claiming that a black user wasn't sperging out 24/7 to earn favor with the white people here. Ignoring, of course, that the way you earn favor with white people is to sperg about non-existent racism.
Ya know i'm not even gonna bother linking the bible verse that says it's ok to kill someone for lying with someone of the same sex.
It's still an action. It's not 'gay people', which is what you call people who are attracted to the same sex. Regardless, the Old Testament penal law is irrelevant for Christians. And before you make the tired old ignorant argument about shellfish, so is the ceremonial law. Only the moral law is applicable - meaning that homosexuality is considered immoral in Christianity, but there is no prescription for civil authorities on how to deal with it.
and often link it to... well that's putting mildly believe all gay people are pedophiles... and apparently disagreeing with that concept makes me a horrible person here. go figure.
Well, that's stupid. But why are you so concerned about what a bunch of marginalized people believe? Are you trying to save their souls?
the christians here clearly hate gay people.
The "Christians here" aren't exactly representative of Christianity, insofar that they are Christians. There's one guy who claims to be a Christian who says that he hopes that the Jews and Arabs (a significant minority of whom are Christians) just kill each other because they are "enemies of his race". Few ideas would be more anti-Christian and modern than that.
you are defending people who wanna strip away right from pedophiles i mean gay people
Which rights? Who decides that these are 'rights'? Obviously, what you call gay people are not universally or even mostly pedophiles, but the concept of 'gay rights' is very modern, and I reject modernity.
I'm willing to believe your an atheist posing as a christian then you actually being a christian to be honest.
You got it part right, in that I am an atheist, though not posing as a Christian. However, I do think that Christianity should be the foundation for Western civilization. I used to think that a world without religion would be more humane and rational, and then the concept of 'pregnant man' appeared.
I don't. The ones I appreciate or appreciated to some extent in the past often do critique Islam, and in fact, do so appropriately more so than Christianity. Folks like Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris (who was bearable before his TDS).
That said, this does not apply to Reddit-tier 'atheists', who are just anti-Christian. You may have the justification that you're talking to people who (you think) are mostly Christians, in mostly attacking Christianity, but they don't.
it's not
You got in someone's mind so much that he decided to create an account just to attack you.
24/7 seems like a stretch bro. i atleast take a few days off from my sperging. and what non-existent racism? you mean against white people or non white people? i am legit confused by that last part
The kind people like Ta Nehisi Coates and Nicole Hannah Jones and the rest of the three name brigade cry about. The way to success, fame and being adored by white people is to make up racism and complain about white people.
Normally i would go over all of this but it just dawned on me your bi sexual and probably lean more towards men then women. and i don't feel comfortable having a debate on this topic who's sexually repressed their gay side.
What a stupid comment. If I say that I'm bisexual, I'm obviously not "repressed" anything. In fact, you said that you don't like that you have homosexual desires, while I have no problem with it.
Fact is, you simply have no counter to what I have posted, and you try the cheap way out the same way you attempted to discredit Smith, which is really pathetic.
yet consider being gay an illness.
You're simply making up stuff.
religion as a concept is neither good nor bad. the past had it's problem under religion. like the future without religion will certainly have it's own set of problems
Correct. But like I said, the problem is with the idea that a world without religion is an improvement. While you try to blame 'pregnant men' on religious leftists, this sort of nonsense - and many other things - were never taken seriously when religion was.
And if your gonna use the "modern bad" excuse. then your cherry picking how barbaric we humans were at a time when religion was at it's highest.
Not at all, but it's clearly not necessary to be barbaric to take religion seriously. You can't really compare the state of man before the industrial revolution to today, and conclude that any change must be due to changes in attitude towards religion.
not to mention most if not of everyone today is religious but is doing dumb shit
I know barely anyone who is religious here in Europe.
Eh more so critiquing it. also, if many of the critiques i do is considered attacking. then they really need to shut the fuck about islam and the jews. because if critiquing is attack. but only for their! religion. then they have no leg to stand on.
Well, they should shut up about the Jews, insofar as it's usually completely irrelevant to any topic. That is the way you talked about it. Suddenly, there was a topic out of the blue, saying BIBLE BAD. That is not really a 'critique', that is just an attack. Now, if there is a terrorist attack and I criticize Islam as a result, yeah, that is appropriate. And frankly, it deserves to be (verbally) attacked. Why does Christianity deserve to be attacked?
I listened to you plenty, and even agreed with parts of what you said. Your response was to slam one of our most pleasant users based on scummy and incorrect reasoning.
I am amazed that this is somehow the most important issue. By the way, Christians are right about homosexuality. They say nothing about 'gay people', who do not exist - desiring to have relations with a given gender does not put you in a separate ontological category. They disapprove of homosexuality, and if one looks at the past few years, one can see why. It was the trojan horse for a complete collapse in gender norms.
You can say that society should not approve of homosexuality without looking down on people who do engage in that behavior, some of whom are very worthy, like David Starkey. And that is the attitude of Christians.
And perhaps you didn't. If you didn't, then I don't understand why you take such issue with Christian attitudes towards homosexuality. You say Christianity is bad, but it's not bad to be Christian. While Christians say that homosexuality is bad, but it is not bad to have such inclinations.
Religions don't do 'horrendous shit'. People do. In some cases, it's arguable whether the teachings of the religion are responsible.
No? You must not have noticed my comments about the Jews.
Maybe, but experience shows that people who are very critical of Christianity remain silent in the face of Islam, even where there are many Muslims, as in Europe - and in fact often defend Islam and Muslims.
Consider it a compliment.
What a reasonable and well-written reply.
This ought to be the last word on whatever controversy this guy is going on about.
Claiming that a black user wasn't sperging out 24/7 to earn favor with the white people here. Ignoring, of course, that the way you earn favor with white people is to sperg about non-existent racism.
It's still an action. It's not 'gay people', which is what you call people who are attracted to the same sex. Regardless, the Old Testament penal law is irrelevant for Christians. And before you make the tired old ignorant argument about shellfish, so is the ceremonial law. Only the moral law is applicable - meaning that homosexuality is considered immoral in Christianity, but there is no prescription for civil authorities on how to deal with it.
Well, that's stupid. But why are you so concerned about what a bunch of marginalized people believe? Are you trying to save their souls?
The "Christians here" aren't exactly representative of Christianity, insofar that they are Christians. There's one guy who claims to be a Christian who says that he hopes that the Jews and Arabs (a significant minority of whom are Christians) just kill each other because they are "enemies of his race". Few ideas would be more anti-Christian and modern than that.
Which rights? Who decides that these are 'rights'? Obviously, what you call gay people are not universally or even mostly pedophiles, but the concept of 'gay rights' is very modern, and I reject modernity.
You got it part right, in that I am an atheist, though not posing as a Christian. However, I do think that Christianity should be the foundation for Western civilization. I used to think that a world without religion would be more humane and rational, and then the concept of 'pregnant man' appeared.
I don't. The ones I appreciate or appreciated to some extent in the past often do critique Islam, and in fact, do so appropriately more so than Christianity. Folks like Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris (who was bearable before his TDS).
That said, this does not apply to Reddit-tier 'atheists', who are just anti-Christian. You may have the justification that you're talking to people who (you think) are mostly Christians, in mostly attacking Christianity, but they don't.
You got in someone's mind so much that he decided to create an account just to attack you.
The kind people like Ta Nehisi Coates and Nicole Hannah Jones and the rest of the three name brigade cry about. The way to success, fame and being adored by white people is to make up racism and complain about white people.
What a stupid comment. If I say that I'm bisexual, I'm obviously not "repressed" anything. In fact, you said that you don't like that you have homosexual desires, while I have no problem with it.
Fact is, you simply have no counter to what I have posted, and you try the cheap way out the same way you attempted to discredit Smith, which is really pathetic.
You're simply making up stuff.
Correct. But like I said, the problem is with the idea that a world without religion is an improvement. While you try to blame 'pregnant men' on religious leftists, this sort of nonsense - and many other things - were never taken seriously when religion was.
Not at all, but it's clearly not necessary to be barbaric to take religion seriously. You can't really compare the state of man before the industrial revolution to today, and conclude that any change must be due to changes in attitude towards religion.
I know barely anyone who is religious here in Europe.
Well, they should shut up about the Jews, insofar as it's usually completely irrelevant to any topic. That is the way you talked about it. Suddenly, there was a topic out of the blue, saying BIBLE BAD. That is not really a 'critique', that is just an attack. Now, if there is a terrorist attack and I criticize Islam as a result, yeah, that is appropriate. And frankly, it deserves to be (verbally) attacked. Why does Christianity deserve to be attacked?
Why?