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Christians when the pope allows gay marriage. (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Bluestorm 1 year ago by Bluestorm +2 / -21
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– Piroko -5 points 1 year ago +1 / -6

those are jew things

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." -Matthew 5:17

Your protestations to the contrary are Pauline garbage. Paul is to Christ what Kathleen Kennedy is to Star Wars.

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– Smith1980 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

My better question is should we as Christians follow the law? I always felt that Christ’s fulfillment meant we are free from those rules. Granted I’m no theologian so any insight you have would be appreciated. I know he gave us the greatest commandment which covers everything I’d say

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– Piroko 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

The next couple sentences in Matthew 5 pretty much kick that to the curb.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. -Matthew 5:19

The back half of Matthew 5 is taking the Hebrew to task for being hypocrites. He never says the law is wrong. Just that they aren't living up to it, and then sets an EVEN HIGHER standard.

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– 8BitArchitect 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Read Romans 12 13 and get back to me.

E: daggumit, my memory was off. Both are good passages though.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Read it. Importantly points about loving one another.

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– 8BitArchitect 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

My memory was a bit off. The bit about submitting to authority is in Romans 13, but both passages are good.

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– Mcartneys_ghost 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Most Christians take Jesus saying that nothing that goes into your mouth makes you unclean to mean cleanliness laws no longer apply. Even saying he wasn't abolishing the law, he changed the rules on divorce.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– Piroko -4 points 1 year ago +1 / -5

So any of the books Paul wrote shouldn’t be considered biblical?

They aren't the Sermons, and calling Paul "the apostle" is like saying everyone at Lambeau deserves a superbowl ring for being really loud (which is basically all Paul was, figuratively).

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– TotallyNotA_IRSAgent 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You're wrong

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– Piroko -1 points 1 year ago +2 / -3

In what way?

I only regard the Gospels as foundational. Everything after is fanfiction, as canonical as the Book of Mormon.

Remember: I AM QUAKER. From my perspective the Catholic church of Peter and Paul is itself a perversion of the original faith.

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– TotallyNotA_IRSAgent 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

How many books got taken out by the roman catholic church when they standardized the bible? I don't see the book of enoch in there

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– Smith1980 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think the Ethiopian church is the only one that has Book of Enoch in it’s Bible

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– Piroko -2 points 1 year ago +1 / -3

But how does that contribute to your argument that I'm wrong.

Christ's sermons in the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke do not support the later Pauline assertion that Christ was the end of the law.

I am saying bluntly, your (like many) rejection of the majority of the Mitzvot is, well, blasphemous catholic hypocrisy. A marketing decision by a 1st century bullshit artist who called himself an apostle despite not being at the proverbial table.

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