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posted 2 years ago by quantumwannabe 2 years ago by quantumwannabe +38 / -0
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– Assassin47 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

constitutional amendments should not be left up to simple democratic majority vote

Nothing should. Except maybe who you want to run your HOA or little league team.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I disagree. We just saw the utility in this because a popular constitutional amendment over-turned a bad Supreme Court decision in 2020. It's not a great system, but I'll take any judicial accountability over none. If the people are gonna have to learn the hard way, then let them.

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– Assassin47 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I don't see why the legislature couldn't have done that. Frankly the power of a single court system to direct and shift culture for an entire state/nation is a different fundamental problem, and letting a popular amendment override a court decision is a weird hack to get around it. I suppose most mechanisms of government are merely half-baked trade-offs taping over the other problems that government caused.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That would be nice, but it would require a significant change in how judicial overturn works, and how the legislature could be made more accountable. Right now, the legislature just can't. Ohio's ability to just have a popular petition to an amendment is a good tool for popular dissent against an establishment structure. Fundamentally, Ohio is a Republican establishment state, so unfortunately, this is working as intended. The fact that Republicans aren't interested in turning out is a full scale failure of their strategy.

We're on the same page of this is all half-baked trade-offs, but that's where we are at at the moment.

I would be happy to overturn Marbury v. Madison, but no one listens to me in normie world.

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