Fraud is the default. I assume fraud. Someone would have to provide me evidence it's not rigged.
Not just the ones the GOP loses, though.
Cuz the logical thing is it's really easy to stuff ballots. Why wouldn't you? We have anonymous ballot. It's ripe for cheating. AFAIK American elections have always been crooked. Read about our history, if you like.
But ballots are anonymous everywhere, except in North Korea style states.
Does that mean that every election anywhere is stolen? It would surprise me only in that elections don't really have an effect - see how little DJT was able to accomplish due to being sabotaged at every turn. That is why they don't steal elections in Europe, the powers that be don't care if Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum is in power.
Note that I'm NOT saying that "these are the fairest and freest elections evah". I'm saying that either for that claim or for the claim of fraud, I'd need evidence.
I think quite possibly most elections in the world are crooked. Again, at least in the past there is evidence of it, and you have to assume more get away with it than you catch. I think that it is sound risk management to assume that elections are compromised.
If they were doing anything to make them better, I'd feel better about it. But they're actively making them less secure.
It's probably not "they" and "them" doing it. I think distributed ballot stuffing is more likely. It's nearly impossible to catch. Again unless you implement some kind of ballot security which is not happening.
'Fuckery' is common but it's an abdication of responsibility to go around blaming everything on fraud, particularly without evidence.
Fraud is the default. I assume fraud. Someone would have to provide me evidence it's not rigged.
Not just the ones the GOP loses, though.
Cuz the logical thing is it's really easy to stuff ballots. Why wouldn't you? We have anonymous ballot. It's ripe for cheating. AFAIK American elections have always been crooked. Read about our history, if you like.
But ballots are anonymous everywhere, except in North Korea style states.
Does that mean that every election anywhere is stolen? It would surprise me only in that elections don't really have an effect - see how little DJT was able to accomplish due to being sabotaged at every turn. That is why they don't steal elections in Europe, the powers that be don't care if Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum is in power.
Note that I'm NOT saying that "these are the fairest and freest elections evah". I'm saying that either for that claim or for the claim of fraud, I'd need evidence.
I think quite possibly most elections in the world are crooked. Again, at least in the past there is evidence of it, and you have to assume more get away with it than you catch. I think that it is sound risk management to assume that elections are compromised.
If they were doing anything to make them better, I'd feel better about it. But they're actively making them less secure.
It's probably not "they" and "them" doing it. I think distributed ballot stuffing is more likely. It's nearly impossible to catch. Again unless you implement some kind of ballot security which is not happening.