Doesn't follow. Restrictions on writing are as old as mass literatu itself. It's very stupid to try to equate that to the attempted eradiction of the Russian people, or white people, but then again...
Another lie. Samidat was a response to total information control and the full censorship of literature of all kinds, and it emerged in response to bolshevik erasure of russian writing and their culture.
Everything you don't want to acknowledge is stupid in your own opinion, and you disregard what others have to say simply because they don't align with your flawed world-view. You're simply trying to downplay the sheer levels of control the bolsheviks lusted for, and trying to normalize censorship.
Just out of curiosity: what was the 'praise'?
Ignoring your own posts now?
More retarded sperging. You're trying awfully hard to keep a secret where you got your... ahem... knowledge. Is it really that embarrassing? If not, do tell.
Nice darvo, but your struggle session attempts are useless against me, commie. No matter how hard you try, you can never erase the genocides the bolsheviks unleashed against the russian peoples, who were white.
Does it help you cope when you claim to be 'invalidated' like you're a troon?
There you go with the historical revisionism again, commie. You're basically throwing every insult you can, and none of them sticks.
Observations are not opinions. Are you literally retarded?
To your kind, only the State may decree facts. So of course you cannot comprehend the fact that what you're doing is running PR for the communist genocides. And when you are faced with observations that run counter to your narrative, your only response is to call others "retarded".
Citation needed.
Nice bait.
I didn't label "everyone" there a Nazi. But shocker, like your masters in the state-approved propaganda, you're rabidly pro-Ukraine and pro-Ukrainian Nazi.
Struck a nerve, eh? Backpedal harder, commie.
LOL. WUT. You must be a parody. A communist trying to make anti-communists look retarded. No one is this stupid.
You just make shit up as you go, then treat it as facts to cover the fact that your desperate defense of communist genocide is collapsing.
Noteworthy that you can't address the substance, nor even point where 'the middle' is.
Stay mad.
Dude, you're so retarded that you claim that mentioning the supposed books (non-existent, because you don't read books) you mention here will be "banned". I don't think anyone should pretend that you are anything but a really bad but at the same time really funny joke.
I'd rather not let you, a communist shill, know where to look.
Arguing against a tantrum from a massive sperg is not a realistic proposition. But it's funny that you were caught red-handed being guilty of exactly what you were claiming.
You've been trying to downplay the bolshevik genocide against the Russian people this whole time. Not me.
Sorry for trying to inject facts into the drivel that is your pathetic, sad existence. Though the fact that you tried to blame the system's mass murders on the personal quirks of Stalin does show that you may have some latent support for communism.
Another lie. I talked about the bolshevik state committing genocide against the russian people, and you're desperately trying to get people to stop talking about it.
Blah blah blah, bullshit. No communist regime attempted to do that. You, in your insanity, think that you can redefine 'exterminate' to mean something that fits your deranged non-mind. And you really can't. You can only become an ever greater joke.
See, this is how I know you're a useful idiot that parrots whatever your demcast owners tell you to, with no care to the real world. As much as an ass you're making of yourself simping for bolsheviks, I am glad you've actually never lived under communist repression.
The sources you're keeping secret, because they don't exist?
You wish, don't you? But no matter how hard you wish, the crimes of the communists will never be forgotten.
All you have is autistic screeching. REEEEEEEEEE COMMUNISTS BAD THEY IS GUILTY OF EVERYTHING
Marxist ideology is pretty much the root of the suffering of the modern-day world. You tried to downplay that, but you failed.
Do tell. I'm always up for a laugh.
You are fortunate not to have lived under a communist regime. And what do you do with that fortune? Laugh at people unfortunate enough to have experienced all the evils of communism.
I bet, as you don't know any. You attempted to appear smart by saying 'samizdat', and you failed so miserably that you've been sperging ever since.
Nice bait, but the concept of samizdat and its existence is a key part of my argument. You're just mad that it is not forgotten, to the point you have to spew personal attacks just to look like you have an argument; you don't.
You can't even back it up. Just a 80 IQ assertion, repeated over and over again, which must be persuasive to very stupid people like yourself, but not to anyone who actually knows any Russian history.
Your whole argument can be summarized into 'no u'. I knew the moment you were reduced to personal attacks that you had no argument, 'stalwart'. As expected of a commie who cannot bribe away the hard evidence of bolshevik mass murder. The fact that you've been reduced to personal attacks from the get go is proof of that.
I don't need to validate anything to a foreign communist shill that's trying to erase bolshevik mass-murder and cultural erasure.
TOTAL PANIC HERE!
Sure, you're not panicking. Heh, if that was the case, why you're trying every insult you know?
I mean, you are retarded. Or at the very least, you've been so deranged that you can't even hold a normal conversation. Did you think anyone would take seriously your claim that you're keeping all the books (all zero of them) that you've read secret because mentioning them here will get them banned? You're so obviously an overly emotional nitwit, incapable of argument, incapable of reason, capable only of repeating a claim that you're unable to back up.
What's the difference between you and a leftist? I think leftists would respond more reasonably to someone who, unlike you, has some wits, who would point out that there are serious historical debates about, for example, how repressive the Nazi regime was, or whether the final solution was driven by Hitler's desires or by the structures of the regime... without flipping out and sperging non-stop as you have done, accusing everyone of being a Nazicommunist.
Nice whataboutism.
I explained why I consider you to be a communist - it was because you were doing a PR blitz for genocides against the russian people, carried out by the bolsheviks. I didn't call everyone here a communist. You on the other hand, kept nitpicking and following through pointless demands, unable to comprehend the fact that bolsheviks were the ones genociding white people in russia over some excuse like 'capitalists' or something equally innocuous.
Stay mad. I know your kind, because as I said before;
Don’t let them emotionally bait you. They will attack your race, intellect and humanity to try and upset you. It deteriorates from there.
Communism (like Nazism) is dead and buried, contrary to the American right's retardation in calling everyone a communist (which is certainly fun, but don't smoke your own stuff). The fact that you are this emotional about an ideology that failed, failed on its own terms, and failed in basically every respect, is just embarrassing. Tilt at more windmills.
Another lie. If communism was dead and buried (like nazism as you claim), then their vile genocides and cultural erasures would be openly discussed. It's not even taught in american schools as far as I know. And here you are, on a relatively free-speech board desperately pretending that no communist regime ever engaged in genocide and cultural erasure.
And now you pretend its 'right retardation' when people see what you commies are doing and raise the alert.
Communism is not dead; it is the dream ideology of petty tyrants - and the fact you're offended by people who dare to discuss the genocides pushed by the bolsheviks to the point you have to try and erase all discussion of it is proof that they're slowly worming themselves back into power with a veneer of 'intellectualism' and 'equity'. And hey, historical revisionism is one of their most-commonly observed tactics.
That's what you're trying to do.
I'm here being charitable in assuming that you are not a congenital retard, which is also a possibility, and I do that because I've seen your username come across quite a lot, and I can't remember a whole lot of retardation or even plain coming from you.
Nah. You went directly for the personal attacks when you realized I would not be broken by your communist struggle session tactics.
By whom? You? No wonder you support Ukraine.
Now you're reduced to claiming that I support Ukraine because I had the nerve to counter your lies and say that not all ukrainian people are nazis. Oh, and they're not the only ones who witnessed the genocides committed by the bolsheviks.
Your idiotic PR attempts to facelift the bolsheviks is what's making neo-nazis look like the sane ones. But that's all good and well for you, isn't it? Now you can run back to your demcast owners and tell them how 'huwait zupremacheese' and 'LITERAL NAZEEZ' are increasing in number worldwide simply because people are pushing back against your lies.
Charitable? Ha, you're a foul-mouthed communist simp using increasingly desperate tactics to try and shout down anyone who dares question your narrative. Your veneer of faux intellectualism is as fragile as your lies.
Another lie. Samidat was a response to total information control and the full censorship of literacy, and it emerged in response to bolshevik erasure of russian writing and culture.
Government censorship. Never happened before, nor has it happened since. Totally genocide.
you disregard what others have to say simply because they don't align with your flawed world-view.
I don't disregard anything, your claims just are not persuasive... to anyone. Apparently, the communists committed 'genocide against white people', because Russians had to use handwritten copies for dissident writings. It sounds like a joke, but it's a very bad one.
Ignoring your own posts now?
I'm asking you. Be specific. What specifically have I said that was 'praise' of Bolsheviks?
There you go with the historical revisionism again, commie. You're basically throwing every insult you can, and none of them sticks.
It's an insult to point out that you, like troons, claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you?
To your kind, only the State may decree facts.
The whole reason I created this forum, is because I distrust institutions - the state, media, academia. Why? Because I've seen them lie many times. Distrusting these does not mean that you should put blind and absolute faith in random blog posts and literal retards, though.
And when you are faced with observations that run counter to your narrative, your only response is to call others "retarded".
That was not the only response. I refuted all your claims, and then made some spicy comments about you. Because you are being ridiculous.
Nice bait.
No, you claimed that I have 'no knowledge of the atrocities inflicted on Russian by the Bolshies'. Can you back it up? Apparently not, same as the rest of your claims.
Struck a nerve, eh? Backpedal harder, commie.
It must make you feel good to imagine backpedaling. The point stands, namely that you seem to be in full support of Ukrainian Nazis. How ironic. I guess you only accept facts when they come from CNN and the USG.
You just make shit up as you go
What was made up?
Stay mad.
I'm definitely very mad that you whined about a sentence, then made a half-baked complaint about it that you couldn't even back up. It's a joke, like the rest of your comments.
I'd rather not let you, a communist shill, know where to look.
Got it, you have a cornucopia of information backing up your idiotic claims, you just want to keep them secret for... reasons. Not even a Kindergartner would fall for this trick. You have nothing to back up your retardation, or they're so embarrassing (blog posts as I said) that you're too ashamed to admit that your stupid is baed on random stuff you read online.
Noted.
You've been trying to downplay the bolshevik genocide against the Russian people this whole time. Not me.
There's no genocide, but you are a total retard.
I talked about the bolshevik state committing genocide against the russian people
Yeah, you keep repeating yourself without being able to present even a shred of evidence for it. You're too dumb to even know what genocide is. Like, not allowing free press is genocide and such as?
See, this is how I know you're a useful idiot that parrots whatever your demcast owners tell you to, with no care to the real world.
It's a fact that your claim that "communist regimes attempted to exterminate the native population" was retarded. That's why you're throwing a tantrum in response, instead of substantiating it.
You wish, don't you? But no matter how hard you wish, the crimes of the communists will never be forgotten.
Well, you'd have to 'know' something first before you can forget it. And you have no sources at all, just toddler-like tantrums.
Marxist ideology is pretty much the root of the suffering of the modern-day world.
Autistic screeching.
Laugh at people unfortunate enough to have experienced all the evils of communism.
You have not 'experienced all the evils of communism'. You're just a retarded, fat Murican (but I repeat myself) repeating what you read in some blog post, mangled by your pitiable mental capabilities.
Nice bait, but the concept of samizdat and its existence is a key part of my argument.
I would say that it was a good attempt, but unfortunately, it wasn't. Samizdat has absolutely nothing to do with genocide. And your 'knowledge' of Russia is non-existent, because you can't even cite where you got your supposed knowledge.
As expected of a commie who cannot bribe away the hard evidence of bolshevik mass murder.
Mass murder is not the same as genocide, dummy.
Sure, you're not panicking. Heh, if that was the case, why you're trying every insult you know?
I know a good deal more, but I'm trying to go easy on you, because I think that you're less malevolent than just congenitally stupid.
Nice whataboutism.
Not a 'whataboutism', but I guess you practiced it when defending your heroic Nazi state of Ukraine.
I explained why I consider you to be a communist - it was because you were doing a PR blitz for genocides against the russian people,
Yeah, cause you're a retard who is too stupid to be able to distinguish between "censorship is not genocide" and "genocide is good"!
I didn't call everyone here a communist
Eh, you might as well. Because the number of people who think that censorship is the same as genocide is very small. I hope you don't start throwing a tantrum every time someone points that out to you, because you're going to have a baaaaaad time.
unable to comprehend the fact that bolsheviks were the ones genociding white people in russia over some excuse like 'capitalists' or something equally innocuous.
Are you actually arguing that the goal of the Bolsheviks was exterminatng white people?
If communism was dead and buried (like nazism as you claim), then their vile genocides and cultural erasures would be openly discussed
They are. Which you'd know if you had read even a single book about Russia or the USSR, which you haven't. These are just not labeled as "genocide", because people who write books of history generally are not retarded.
It's not even taught in american schools as far as I know.
There is a huge difference between what is taught in schools on history (which is generally deplorable) and the work of professional historians.
no communist regime ever engaged in genocide and cultural erasure.
I never talked about 'cultural erasure', whatever you mean with your weasel word. I just mentioned genocide. Arguably, the Khmer Rouge engaged in genocide, but even that can be disputed.
And now you pretend its 'right retardation' when people see what you commies are doing and raise the alert.
You're the Paul Revere of non-existent genocides.
Nah. You went directly for the personal attacks when you realized I would not be broken by your communist struggle session tactics.
My, you sure like to flatter yourself.
I had the nerve to counter your lies and say that not all ukrainian people are nazis
I never claimed that "all" Ukrainian people are Nazis, that's just your strawman excuse for your defense of Ukraine. Any claim about "all" people in a (non-)country of tens of millions is retarded. What is true, is that claims of a genocide directed at the Ukrainian people - pushed by Ukrainian ultranationalists, many of whom are Nazis - are false. The communists brutalized their political opposition, as well as the farmers, and that happened to be located in their Ukrainian republic.
try and shout down anyone who dares question your narrative
You're not questioning a thing. You can't even produce a single source, with your hilarious excuse that mentioning books here will get them banned. That is because you have nothing. All you ever do is repeat your assertions, imagining that being a parrot somehow makes nonsense true. You're just a bad joke, a type of person who makes the right look retarded.
Government censorship. Never happened before, nor has it happened since. Totally genocide.
Government censorship and information control at unprecedented levels, aimed at eradicating russian culture, which is part of the bolshevik effort to eradicate all that they deemed "undesirables". You're a dishonest one, but your arguments collapse the moment they're questioned.
I don't disregard anything, your claims just are not persuasive... to anyone. Apparently, the communists committed 'genocide against white people', because Russians had to use handwritten copies for dissident writings. It sounds like a joke, but it's a very bad one.
I see you've looked up what samizdat means. And what do you do? You deny the fact that the bolsheviks sought to eradicate those they deemed 'old world' peoples, even their cultural knowledge.
Communist simp.
I'm asking you. Be specific. What specifically have I said that was 'praise' of Bolsheviks?
You've been desperately repeating their lies about their genocides. That's why I called you a communist simp.
It's an insult to point out that you, like troons, claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you?
Either you lack actual reading comprehension, or you're trying to push another pharmacetual scam.
The whole reason I created this forum, is because I distrust institutions - the state, media, academia. Why? Because I've seen them lie many times. Distrusting these does not mean that you should put blind and absolute faith in random blog posts and literal retards, though.
You didn't create this forum, you fraud.
That was not the only response. I refuted all your claims, and then made some spicy comments about you. Because you are being ridiculous.
Another lie. You demanded 'sources' like a whiny predditor regarding the well-documented genocides carried out by the bolsheviks. When I refused to comply with your dishonest demands, you started throwing every insult you were permitted by your owners to try and get a rise out of me.
No, you claimed that I have 'no knowledge of the atrocities inflicted on Russian by the Bolshies'. Can you back it up? Apparently not, same as the rest of your claims.
And here you are, confirming what I said with your continued ignorance of world history.
It must make you feel good to imagine backpedaling. The point stands, namely that you seem to be in full support of Ukrainian Nazis. How ironic. I guess you only accept facts when they come from CNN and the USG.
I guess you're gonna keep repeating that lie, just because I dared to say what you ignorant communists refuse to acknowledge; that not all ukrainians are nazis. Goebbels taught you kind well.
What was made up?
Play ignorant all you want, commie shill.
Got it, you have a cornucopia of information backing up your idiotic claims, you just want to keep them secret for... reasons. Not even a Kindergartner would fall for this trick. You have nothing to back up your retardation, or they're so embarrassing (blog posts as I said) that you're too ashamed to admit that your stupid is baed on random stuff you read online. Noted.
Nice bait, commie.
There's no genocide, but you are a total retard.
You're the type to tell those deemed "undesirables" by the state in nazi germany that zyklon-b is safe and effective, I see. Not really surprising, since you communists tried to change change the very definition of genocide so as to exclude bolshevik leaders.
Yeah, you keep repeating yourself without being able to present even a shred of evidence for it. You're too dumb to even know what genocide is. Like, not allowing free press is genocide and such as?
See? You're the one trying to PR facelift genocidal regimes. Not me.
Well, you'd have to 'know' something first before you can forget it. And you have no sources at all, just toddler-like tantrums.
I don't need to show you my sources since you're a demcast "stalwart". No matter how much insults you come up with, I will not break.
Autistic screeching.
You deem facts that you want silenced 'autistic screeching'.
You have not 'experienced all the evils of communism'. You're just a retarded, fat Murican (but I repeat myself) repeating what you read in some blog post, mangled by your pitiable mental capabilities.
Oh look, now you can dictate who's american and who's not. Amazing.
I see you WEF shills fear and hate americans to the point that anyone who dares question you becomes a 'retarded fat murican' in your mind. Typical communist hubris.
I would say that it was a good attempt, but unfortunately, it wasn't. Samizdat has absolutely nothing to do with genocide. And your 'knowledge' of Russia is non-existent, because you can't even cite where you got your supposed knowledge.
You just keep bending my words to make it look like you have an argument. You don't actually have one.
And where I get my knowledge is clearly none of your business, since you've demonstrated an eagerness to silence any facts aside from what you believe to be true.
I know a good deal more, but I'm trying to go easy on you, because I think that you're less malevolent than just congenitally stupid.
You've pulled out all the stops.
And that's all you have, because the moment you started using personal attacks, I knew rule 7 [Remember they’re all under 5’5”, have rolls of fat, live in a literal pigsty, and parrot every corporate lie ever. Point this out when they get personal.] applies to you.
Not a 'whataboutism', but I guess you practiced it when defending your heroic Nazi state of Ukraine.
Whataboutism. All I said was that not all ukrainians are nazis and this is where you end up. It's fascinating to watch you screech in rage.
Yeah, cause you're a retard who is too stupid to be able to distinguish between "censorship is not genocide" and "genocide is good"!
You were the one who decided cultural erasure was not a part of genocide to shore up your own feeble claims that the bolsheviks didn't commit genocide against the russian people.
Eh, you might as well. Because the number of people who think that censorship is the same as genocide is very small. I hope you don't start throwing a tantrum every time someone points that out to you, because you're going to have a baaaaaad time.
Not everyone here is like you, communist shill. And I see you can no longer contain the urge to dictate how others to behave.
Are you actually arguing that the goal of the Bolsheviks was exterminatng white people?
Your continued display of ignorance regarding the writings of Karl and Engels is quite comical. Befitting a useless idiot such as yourself.
They are. Which you'd know if you had read even a single book about Russia or the USSR, which you haven't. These are just not labeled as "genocide", because people who write books of history generally are not retarded.
See? Your point is that anyone who dares to go against communist censorship is retarded.
The ones who have experienced it wrote of it as a genocide and worse.
There is a huge difference between what is taught in schools on history (which is generally deplorable) and the work of professional historians.
There you go. You consider any record of communists committing genocide and worse to be something not worth commenting on by 'professional historians'. No wonder you were so zealous in demanding sources.
I never talked about 'cultural erasure', whatever you mean with your weasel word. I just mentioned genocide. Arguably, the Khmer Rouge engaged in genocide, but even that can be disputed.
Nice backpedal, but communists will always "dispute" their own crimes.
You're the Paul Revere of non-existent genocides.
Of course communists would deny that they carried out genocides. No matter how much the victims talk about it.
It is beautiful to see how your kind still seethe against the one nation that managed to hold out against communist occupation this long, though.
My, you sure like to flatter yourself.
Ha, another struggle session tactic, communist cretin. It's called self-respect, something communist shills like you lack.
I never claimed that "all" Ukrainian people are Nazis, that's just your strawman excuse for your defense of Ukraine. Any claim about "all" people in a (non-)country of tens of millions is retarded. What is true, is that claims of a genocide directed at the Ukrainian people - pushed by Ukrainian ultranationalists, many of whom are Nazis - are false. The communists brutalized their political opposition, as well as the farmers, and that happened to be located in their Ukrainian republic.
Lol more backpedalling.
You started claiming that I support ukrainian nazis for the "crime" of saying that not all ukrainians are nazis. Then, you had the gall to claim that the only people talking about bolshevik genocides are 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.
You're just mad that your state-sponsored narrative is being questioned.
You're not questioning a thing. You can't even produce a single source, with your hilarious excuse that mentioning books here will get them banned. That is because you have nothing. All you ever do is repeat your assertions, imagining that being a parrot somehow makes nonsense true. You're just a bad joke, a type of person who makes the right look retarded.
Merely questioning your lies has you throwing insults left, right and center.
That's all I needed to see to know that you're one of them, and no matter how much you try and use your struggle session tactics, I will simply laugh at how hard you are coping. Is this where tax money from the conquered nations are going? To fund incompetent shills like you?
Government censorship and information control at unprecedented levels
Yes. It's still not 'genocide'.
I see you've looked up what samizdat means.
I'm not the one who can't produce any sources of information, because he hasn't read any. That would be you. In fact, 'samizdat' is basically the only thing you know about Russian history, and you've been repeating it because no one called you out on your BS. Not happening here.
You deny the fact that the bolsheviks sought to eradicate those they deemed 'old world' peoples
Basically no one tries to eradicate the people he rules over...
You've been desperately repeating their lies about their genocides.
OK, so you can't cite any 'praise'. Which shows that you were lying. Shocker. No one in his right mind would say that "the mass murders that the communists committed were not aimed at eradicating the Russian people, and therefore were not genocide against Russians" is praise, or even anything other than eminently sensible.
Unfortunately, I think it was very long time ago that you were in your right mind, if ever.
Either you lack actual reading comprehension,
No defense of your troon-like claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you.
You didn't create this forum, you fraud.
LOL. I see there are some very unpleasant truths you will have to confront at some point.
You demanded 'sources' like a whiny predditor
Imagine that, someone claims to know a Great Deal about Russia, and you ask him... where he got all that knowledge. Apparently, it was an Ouija Board. Questioning your Ouija Board makes someone a Predditor.
regarding the well-documented genocides carried out by the bolsheviks.
Well-documented, you say? Produce the documents then.
When I refused to comply with your dishonest demands
Yes, you said that mentioning books here would result in them getting banned. So on the one hand, your claims are "well-documented" and believed by everyone except communists, but on the other hand, as much as mentioning those great sources of yours (blog posts) will result in them getting banned.
And here you are, confirming what I said with your continued ignorance of world history.
What counts as 'ignorance of world history'? Here's another question you'll not be able to answer. Quick, talk about Reddit again to try to save face!
I dared to say what you ignorant communists refuse to acknowledge; that not all ukrainians are nazis
I said that in the very post you were quoting. Obviously, not all Ukrainians are Nazis. Or even most. But it has a serious Nazi problem, and specifically the people who brand the Holodomor as a genocide are Ukrainian nationalists with... spicy ideologies. Of course, that does not automatically make them wrong, but it does explain why they would make such claims. Many of them to cover their own misdeeds.
Play ignorant all you want, commie shill.
OK, so you can't name a single thing that was made up.
Nice bait, commie.
You're still keeping secret where you got this great wisdom of yours.
You're the type to tell those deemed "undesirables" by the state in nazi germany that zyklon-b is safe and effective,
THEY'RE ON TO ME! SHUT IT DOWN!
Not really surprising, since you communists tried to change change the very definition of genocide so as to exclude bolshevik leaders.
Say, what is the definition of genocide? NO DEFINITIONS ARE A COMMIE CONSPIRACY. Alright.
See? You're the one trying to PR facelift genocidal regimes. Not me.
Providing a more nuanced understanding of murderous regime is not 'doing PR'. I can refer you to books, which you of course will not read, that paint Hitler and the Nazis in a more favorable light. It is not difficult, considering that the popular image of Nazis is "pure evil". Because history is complex and nuanced. Everyone in history did good things and bad things. It's just that for the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, the bad grossly outweighed such good as they did.
I don't need to show you my sources
Yes, cause you don't have any.
No matter how much insults you come up with, I will not break.
Apparently, you'll not stop flattering yourself either.
You deem facts that you want silenced 'autistic screeching'.
There are intelligent anti-communists. Robert Conquest is one. You are not one.
Oh look, now you can dictate who's american and who's not. Amazing.
Observing is not dictating.
And where I get my knowledge is clearly none of your business
The entire historical enterprise rests on sources. Of course everyone expects you to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's just a cripple fight (which this is).
since you've demonstrated an eagerness to silence any facts
What better way to SMASH THE BAD COMMIE than by presenting those very intelligent sources that you definitely have. Grandma, you sure are merciful in not SMASHING THE BAD COMMIE.
And that's all you have, because the moment you started using personal attacks, I knew rule 7 [Remember they’re all under 5’5”, have rolls of fat, live in a literal pigsty, and parrot every corporate lie ever. Point this out when they get personal.] applies to you.
You've got to tell yourself that, to try to salvage at least some face.
Whataboutism
Funny how you cite the non-argument most cited by defenders of the US empire.
Empire simp: "Muh Russher invaded a SOVEREIGN COUNTRY."
Normal person: "Eh, do you mean like the US in Iraq?"
Empire simp: "WHATABOUTISM!"
All I said was that not all ukrainians are nazis and this is where you end up.
OK, and water is wet.
You were the one who decided cultural erasure was not a part of genocide
It's part of genocide, but it certainly isn't sufficient for genocide.
to shore up your own feeble claims that the bolsheviks didn't commit genocide against the russian people.
White people. That is the claim you're defending.
Not everyone here is like you
No one here is like me. There are no men like me, only me. I meant in the so called real world.
[Are you actually arguing that the goal of the Bolsheviks was exterminatng white people?] Your continued display of ignorance regarding the writings of Karl and Engels
OK, so Mr. Genius is now arguing that the goal of Marx and Engels was 'exterminating white people'.
See? Your point is that anyone who dares to go against communist censorship is retarded.
What's "to go against"? Use retarded labels that have nothing to do with censorship? Yes.
The ones who have experienced it wrote of it as a genocide and worse.
Name ten. Or is that a secret as well?
Nice backpedal, but communists will always "dispute" their own crimes.
I said 'can be disputed', not has been disputed.
It is beautiful to see how your kind still seethe against the one nation that managed to hold out against communist occupation this long, though.
Ukraine?
It's called self-respect
You clearly have none. How could you have any? Your sperging all rests on "MY SOURCES ARE SUPER DUPER SECRET", which is because you know that you have nothing with which to back up your BS. That is why you invent hilarious excuses like... posting your sources here will get those books banned.
Then, you had the gall to claim that the only people talking about bolshevik genocides are 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.
Basically. Not you though. They accuse them of 'genocide against Ukrainians'. You accuse them of genocide against Russians. That's just stupid.
Still part of genocide and eradication of those they deemed "undesirables". Seethe more, commie.
I'm not the one who can't produce any sources of information, because he hasn't read any. That would be you. In fact, 'samizdat' is basically the only thing you know about Russian history, and you've been repeating it because no one called you out on your BS. Not happening here.
Cope and seethe. No one's called me out because there's nothing for them to disagree on. You were simply upset that someone stood up against your lies.
The only thing you've done so far is destroy your own arguments and throw insults, commie. You didn't call anything out - but you did demonstrate your own ignorance of world history. Congratulations, you dim-witted dumbfuck.
Basically no one tries to eradicate the people he rules over...
Another lie.
You have no idea how communist regimes following the writings of Marx and Engels do things, then.
OK, so you can't cite any 'praise'. Which shows that you were lying.
I don't have to cite your own words. They're damning enough as it is.
Shocker. No one in his right mind would say that "the mass murders that the communists committed were not aimed at eradicating the Russian people, and therefore were not genocide against Russians" is praise, or even anything other than eminently sensible.
You're trying pretty hard to divert from the fact that you've been desperately repeating bolshevik talking points when it came to covering up the genocide of the russian people.
Commie simp.
Unfortunately, I think it was very long time ago that you were in your right mind, if ever.
You're repeating the post-WWII soviet 'our genocide is not genocide' lie, commie. But hey, your kind cannot think.
No defense of your troon-like claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you.
You're a terminally-retarded imbecile if your reading comprehension is this low.
LOL. I see there are some very unpleasant truths you will have to confront at some point.
Yeah, I bet your uncle works at nintendo. Go beg him to ban my game boy color or something. Oh wait, you can't. Because you're a fraud, a liar and a commie.
You wish you ran this joint though, although you never will. Cry about it, commie.
Imagine that, someone claims to know a Great Deal about Russia, and you ask him... where he got all that knowledge. Apparently, it was an Ouija Board. Questioning your Ouija Board makes someone a Predditor.
You're just mad because all your dirty commie tricks are being ignored. Seethe and cope, predditor filth.
Well-documented, you say? Produce the documents then.
So you can burn them? Hahahaha, no.
Yes, you said that mentioning books here would result in them getting banned. So on the one hand, your claims are "well-documented" and believed by everyone except communists, but on the other hand, as much as mentioning those great sources of yours (blog posts) will result in them getting banned.
You deny that, but that's how you communists have always silenced your critics.
What counts as 'ignorance of world history'? Here's another question you'll not be able to answer. Quick, talk about Reddit again to try to save face!
Clever bait, but you've already demonstrated an ignorance of world history. As expected of an ignorant communist shill.
I said that in the very post you were quoting. Obviously, not all Ukrainians are Nazis. Or even most. But it has a serious Nazi problem, and specifically the people who brand the Holodomor as a genocide are Ukrainian nationalists with... spicy ideologies. Of course, that does not automatically make them wrong, but it does explain why they would make such claims. Many of them to cover their own misdeeds.
That's a lot of words to try and avoid the fact you brought up Ukraine out of nowhere to try and insult me. Backpedal even harder, commie.
OK, so you can't name a single thing that was made up.
Sure I can. I just don't need to because you're the one making things up.
You're still keeping secret where you got this great wisdom of yours.
Of course. You're an ignorant commie's useful idiot. You cannot comprehend what life is like under communist rule.
THEY'RE ON TO ME! SHUT IT DOWN!
You can't shut down this site either, commie. Although yes, it fits the behavior patterns of your kind - communists always seek to shut down anything and anyone that questions their narrative.
Stay mad.
Say, what is the definition of genocide? NO DEFINITIONS ARE A COMMIE CONSPIRACY. Alright.
You commies changed the definition of genocide after the end of world war 2 to exclude yourselves. A dirty trick, but it's one often used by communists since then.
Providing a more nuanced understanding of murderous regime is not 'doing PR'. I can refer you to books, which you of course will not read
I guess these books dont exist either, commie.
that paint Hitler and the Nazis in a more favorable light. It is not difficult, considering that the popular image of Nazis is "pure evil". Because history is complex and nuanced. Everyone in history did good things and bad things. It's just that for the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, the bad grossly outweighed such good as they did.
"muh context!" Of course, when your side commits genocide, its 'muh context and nuance!', predditor scum.
Hahahaha no, no one's falling for that lie.
Yes, cause you don't have any.
I have plenty. I'm just not going to share it with you.
Apparently, you'll not stop flattering yourself either.
Stay mad. I respect myself enough not to cooperate with a communist worm like you. That's the sort of human spirit you communist scumbags seek to stomp out of your victims.
There are intelligent anti-communists. Robert Conquest is one. You are not one.
You're just mad because I refuse to break my sources. Your pathetic peer pressure tactics only make me laugh.
Observing is not dictating.
Ha, you were the one who claimed I was an American. Your observation skills suck, you inbred dreg in the gene pool of all humanity.
The entire historical enterprise rests on sources. Of course everyone expects you to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's just a cripple fight (which this is).
I don't need to share sources with you historical revisionists.
What better way to SMASH THE BAD COMMIE than by presenting those very intelligent sources that you definitely have. Grandma, you sure are merciful in not SMASHING THE BAD COMMIE
I see you haven't witnessed (or perhaps you have, and are trying to memoryhole that) the communist speedrun of 2020, you dishonest shitwad. I don't really need to smash anyone - communists tend to destroy themselves once they run out of funding.
Nice attempt at trying to get me to commit violence, though, glowfag. You suck at that too. You will never get anyone in this community to commit a mass shooting. Cry about it.
You've got to tell yourself that, to try to salvage at least some face.
Oh look, communist interrogation tactic #に: social shaming of the imaginary kind. Hahaha, you are a fool if you think that will work on me.
Funny how you cite the non-argument most cited by defenders of the US empire.
Nice whataboutism, commie. But there is no US empire; just another country slowly succumbing to communist occupation.
All I said was that not all ukrainians are nazis and this is where you end up.
OK, and water is wet.
Which goes against your original claim that me saying that not all ukrainians are nazis somehow makes me pro-ukraine.
But you're too much of a cretin to even admit that.
It's part of genocide
There you go.
but it certainly isn't sufficient for genocide.
Unfortunately for you, the soviet authorities demanded a change in the definition of genocide to exclude their own actions. That's the reason why you desperately claim that the bolsheviks did not commit genocide; you know that they did, and must hide that fact. If it became widespread knowledge that you commies managed to commit genocide on a greater scale than nazi germany, then yes - your ideology would be decimated and shunned to death.
It's your neck on the line when that lie finally collapses, commie.
White people. That is the claim you're defending.
You're trying pretty hard to deny the ethnic identity of the russian peoples, you dishonest communist shill.
No one here is like me. There are no men like me, only me. I meant in the so called real world.
Of course, no one here is a disgusting, dishonest communist like you. You're a pathetic shill that's STILL mad about how the communist genocides simply wont stay buried, no matter how hard you claim that the ideology is 'dead' and scream down any sort of discussion of bolsheviks and their genocides.
OK, so Mr. Genius is now arguing that the goal of Marx and Engels was 'exterminating white people'.
Your ignorance of the baseline behavior of all communist regimes is fascinating. Truly, you are a useful idiot.
What's "to go against"? Use retarded labels that have nothing to do with censorship? Yes.
Another lie. Now you're claiming that samizdat emerged for no reason.
Name ten. Or is that a secret as well?
And have your kind haul them off to the gulags? Hah, you're a single-digit IQ subhuman retard if you think I'll tell you even one.
I said 'can be disputed', not has been disputed.
Nice backpedal, commie. But I know your kind has been doing PR facelifts for the Khmer Rouge too.
You're the Paul Revere of non-existent genocides.
It is beautiful to see how your kind still seethe against the one nation that managed to hold out against communist occupation this long, though.
Ukraine?
You're pretty desperate to twist everything I say to Ukraine, aren't you?
Two things wrong with your idiotic reply, though.
Paul Revere isn't Ukrainian.
Ukraine isn't occupied.
Of course, your obsession marks your desperation to mark all conversation of communist-run genocides as 'autistic screeching' by 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.
Too bad, commie. It won't work.
You clearly have none. How could you have any? Your sperging all rests on "MY SOURCES ARE SUPER DUPER SECRET", which is because you know that you have nothing with which to back up your BS. That is why you invent hilarious excuses like... posting your sources here will get those books banned.
Another lie. My response to you has been 'hahaha communist, I won't tell you what my sources are' and you've tried every struggle session tactic you've been taught, only to fail hilariously each and every time.
I revel in your desperate screeching.
Basically. Not you though. They accuse them of 'genocide against Ukrainians'. You accuse them of genocide against Russians. That's just stupid.
Typical communist lies. I wasn't talking about Ukraine in the first place. You brought that up to try and shame me into silence. Too bad, that didn't work either.
Your argument is what's stupid. After all, you ignore the fact the bolsheviks committed the holomodor because it's an inconvenient fact for you commies, and I've seen the convoluted levels of mental gymnastics you go to try and PR facelift that. Of course, it's what I'd expect from an ignorant moron such as yourself.
Another lie. Samidat was a response to total information control and the full censorship of literature of all kinds, and it emerged in response to bolshevik erasure of russian writing and their culture.
Everything you don't want to acknowledge is stupid in your own opinion, and you disregard what others have to say simply because they don't align with your flawed world-view. You're simply trying to downplay the sheer levels of control the bolsheviks lusted for, and trying to normalize censorship.
Ignoring your own posts now?
Nice darvo, but your struggle session attempts are useless against me, commie. No matter how hard you try, you can never erase the genocides the bolsheviks unleashed against the russian peoples, who were white.
There you go with the historical revisionism again, commie. You're basically throwing every insult you can, and none of them sticks.
To your kind, only the State may decree facts. So of course you cannot comprehend the fact that what you're doing is running PR for the communist genocides. And when you are faced with observations that run counter to your narrative, your only response is to call others "retarded".
Nice bait.
Struck a nerve, eh? Backpedal harder, commie.
You just make shit up as you go, then treat it as facts to cover the fact that your desperate defense of communist genocide is collapsing.
Stay mad.
I'd rather not let you, a communist shill, know where to look.
You've been trying to downplay the bolshevik genocide against the Russian people this whole time. Not me.
Another lie. I talked about the bolshevik state committing genocide against the russian people, and you're desperately trying to get people to stop talking about it.
See, this is how I know you're a useful idiot that parrots whatever your demcast owners tell you to, with no care to the real world. As much as an ass you're making of yourself simping for bolsheviks, I am glad you've actually never lived under communist repression.
You wish, don't you? But no matter how hard you wish, the crimes of the communists will never be forgotten.
Marxist ideology is pretty much the root of the suffering of the modern-day world. You tried to downplay that, but you failed.
You are fortunate not to have lived under a communist regime. And what do you do with that fortune? Laugh at people unfortunate enough to have experienced all the evils of communism.
Nice bait, but the concept of samizdat and its existence is a key part of my argument. You're just mad that it is not forgotten, to the point you have to spew personal attacks just to look like you have an argument; you don't.
Your whole argument can be summarized into 'no u'. I knew the moment you were reduced to personal attacks that you had no argument, 'stalwart'. As expected of a commie who cannot bribe away the hard evidence of bolshevik mass murder. The fact that you've been reduced to personal attacks from the get go is proof of that.
I don't need to validate anything to a foreign communist shill that's trying to erase bolshevik mass-murder and cultural erasure.
Sure, you're not panicking. Heh, if that was the case, why you're trying every insult you know?
What's the difference between you and a leftist? I think leftists would respond more reasonably to someone who, unlike you, has some wits, who would point out that there are serious historical debates about, for example, how repressive the Nazi regime was, or whether the final solution was driven by Hitler's desires or by the structures of the regime... without flipping out and sperging non-stop as you have done, accusing everyone of being a Nazicommunist.
Nice whataboutism.
I explained why I consider you to be a communist - it was because you were doing a PR blitz for genocides against the russian people, carried out by the bolsheviks. I didn't call everyone here a communist. You on the other hand, kept nitpicking and following through pointless demands, unable to comprehend the fact that bolsheviks were the ones genociding white people in russia over some excuse like 'capitalists' or something equally innocuous.
Stay mad. I know your kind, because as I said before;
Another lie. If communism was dead and buried (like nazism as you claim), then their vile genocides and cultural erasures would be openly discussed. It's not even taught in american schools as far as I know. And here you are, on a relatively free-speech board desperately pretending that no communist regime ever engaged in genocide and cultural erasure.
And now you pretend its 'right retardation' when people see what you commies are doing and raise the alert.
Communism is not dead; it is the dream ideology of petty tyrants - and the fact you're offended by people who dare to discuss the genocides pushed by the bolsheviks to the point you have to try and erase all discussion of it is proof that they're slowly worming themselves back into power with a veneer of 'intellectualism' and 'equity'. And hey, historical revisionism is one of their most-commonly observed tactics.
That's what you're trying to do.
Nah. You went directly for the personal attacks when you realized I would not be broken by your communist struggle session tactics.
Now you're reduced to claiming that I support Ukraine because I had the nerve to counter your lies and say that not all ukrainian people are nazis. Oh, and they're not the only ones who witnessed the genocides committed by the bolsheviks.
Your idiotic PR attempts to facelift the bolsheviks is what's making neo-nazis look like the sane ones. But that's all good and well for you, isn't it? Now you can run back to your demcast owners and tell them how 'huwait zupremacheese' and 'LITERAL NAZEEZ' are increasing in number worldwide simply because people are pushing back against your lies.
Charitable? Ha, you're a foul-mouthed communist simp using increasingly desperate tactics to try and shout down anyone who dares question your narrative. Your veneer of faux intellectualism is as fragile as your lies.
Remember Year Zero, commie.
Government censorship. Never happened before, nor has it happened since. Totally genocide.
I don't disregard anything, your claims just are not persuasive... to anyone. Apparently, the communists committed 'genocide against white people', because Russians had to use handwritten copies for dissident writings. It sounds like a joke, but it's a very bad one.
I'm asking you. Be specific. What specifically have I said that was 'praise' of Bolsheviks?
It's an insult to point out that you, like troons, claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you?
The whole reason I created this forum, is because I distrust institutions - the state, media, academia. Why? Because I've seen them lie many times. Distrusting these does not mean that you should put blind and absolute faith in random blog posts and literal retards, though.
That was not the only response. I refuted all your claims, and then made some spicy comments about you. Because you are being ridiculous.
No, you claimed that I have 'no knowledge of the atrocities inflicted on Russian by the Bolshies'. Can you back it up? Apparently not, same as the rest of your claims.
It must make you feel good to imagine backpedaling. The point stands, namely that you seem to be in full support of Ukrainian Nazis. How ironic. I guess you only accept facts when they come from CNN and the USG.
What was made up?
I'm definitely very mad that you whined about a sentence, then made a half-baked complaint about it that you couldn't even back up. It's a joke, like the rest of your comments.
Got it, you have a cornucopia of information backing up your idiotic claims, you just want to keep them secret for... reasons. Not even a Kindergartner would fall for this trick. You have nothing to back up your retardation, or they're so embarrassing (blog posts as I said) that you're too ashamed to admit that your stupid is baed on random stuff you read online.
Noted.
There's no genocide, but you are a total retard.
Yeah, you keep repeating yourself without being able to present even a shred of evidence for it. You're too dumb to even know what genocide is. Like, not allowing free press is genocide and such as?
It's a fact that your claim that "communist regimes attempted to exterminate the native population" was retarded. That's why you're throwing a tantrum in response, instead of substantiating it.
Well, you'd have to 'know' something first before you can forget it. And you have no sources at all, just toddler-like tantrums.
Autistic screeching.
You have not 'experienced all the evils of communism'. You're just a retarded, fat Murican (but I repeat myself) repeating what you read in some blog post, mangled by your pitiable mental capabilities.
I would say that it was a good attempt, but unfortunately, it wasn't. Samizdat has absolutely nothing to do with genocide. And your 'knowledge' of Russia is non-existent, because you can't even cite where you got your supposed knowledge.
Mass murder is not the same as genocide, dummy.
I know a good deal more, but I'm trying to go easy on you, because I think that you're less malevolent than just congenitally stupid.
Not a 'whataboutism', but I guess you practiced it when defending your heroic Nazi state of Ukraine.
Yeah, cause you're a retard who is too stupid to be able to distinguish between "censorship is not genocide" and "genocide is good"!
Eh, you might as well. Because the number of people who think that censorship is the same as genocide is very small. I hope you don't start throwing a tantrum every time someone points that out to you, because you're going to have a baaaaaad time.
Are you actually arguing that the goal of the Bolsheviks was exterminatng white people?
They are. Which you'd know if you had read even a single book about Russia or the USSR, which you haven't. These are just not labeled as "genocide", because people who write books of history generally are not retarded.
There is a huge difference between what is taught in schools on history (which is generally deplorable) and the work of professional historians.
I never talked about 'cultural erasure', whatever you mean with your weasel word. I just mentioned genocide. Arguably, the Khmer Rouge engaged in genocide, but even that can be disputed.
You're the Paul Revere of non-existent genocides.
My, you sure like to flatter yourself.
I never claimed that "all" Ukrainian people are Nazis, that's just your strawman excuse for your defense of Ukraine. Any claim about "all" people in a (non-)country of tens of millions is retarded. What is true, is that claims of a genocide directed at the Ukrainian people - pushed by Ukrainian ultranationalists, many of whom are Nazis - are false. The communists brutalized their political opposition, as well as the farmers, and that happened to be located in their Ukrainian republic.
You're not questioning a thing. You can't even produce a single source, with your hilarious excuse that mentioning books here will get them banned. That is because you have nothing. All you ever do is repeat your assertions, imagining that being a parrot somehow makes nonsense true. You're just a bad joke, a type of person who makes the right look retarded.
Government censorship and information control at unprecedented levels, aimed at eradicating russian culture, which is part of the bolshevik effort to eradicate all that they deemed "undesirables". You're a dishonest one, but your arguments collapse the moment they're questioned.
I see you've looked up what samizdat means. And what do you do? You deny the fact that the bolsheviks sought to eradicate those they deemed 'old world' peoples, even their cultural knowledge.
Communist simp.
You've been desperately repeating their lies about their genocides. That's why I called you a communist simp.
Either you lack actual reading comprehension, or you're trying to push another pharmacetual scam.
You didn't create this forum, you fraud.
Another lie. You demanded 'sources' like a whiny predditor regarding the well-documented genocides carried out by the bolsheviks. When I refused to comply with your dishonest demands, you started throwing every insult you were permitted by your owners to try and get a rise out of me.
And here you are, confirming what I said with your continued ignorance of world history.
I guess you're gonna keep repeating that lie, just because I dared to say what you ignorant communists refuse to acknowledge; that not all ukrainians are nazis. Goebbels taught you kind well.
Play ignorant all you want, commie shill.
Nice bait, commie.
You're the type to tell those deemed "undesirables" by the state in nazi germany that zyklon-b is safe and effective, I see. Not really surprising, since you communists tried to change change the very definition of genocide so as to exclude bolshevik leaders.
See? You're the one trying to PR facelift genocidal regimes. Not me.
I don't need to show you my sources since you're a demcast "stalwart". No matter how much insults you come up with, I will not break.
You deem facts that you want silenced 'autistic screeching'.
Oh look, now you can dictate who's american and who's not. Amazing.
I see you WEF shills fear and hate americans to the point that anyone who dares question you becomes a 'retarded fat murican' in your mind. Typical communist hubris.
You just keep bending my words to make it look like you have an argument. You don't actually have one.
And where I get my knowledge is clearly none of your business, since you've demonstrated an eagerness to silence any facts aside from what you believe to be true.
You've pulled out all the stops.
And that's all you have, because the moment you started using personal attacks, I knew rule 7 [Remember they’re all under 5’5”, have rolls of fat, live in a literal pigsty, and parrot every corporate lie ever. Point this out when they get personal.] applies to you.
Whataboutism. All I said was that not all ukrainians are nazis and this is where you end up. It's fascinating to watch you screech in rage.
You were the one who decided cultural erasure was not a part of genocide to shore up your own feeble claims that the bolsheviks didn't commit genocide against the russian people.
Not everyone here is like you, communist shill. And I see you can no longer contain the urge to dictate how others to behave.
Your continued display of ignorance regarding the writings of Karl and Engels is quite comical. Befitting a useless idiot such as yourself.
See? Your point is that anyone who dares to go against communist censorship is retarded.
The ones who have experienced it wrote of it as a genocide and worse.
There you go. You consider any record of communists committing genocide and worse to be something not worth commenting on by 'professional historians'. No wonder you were so zealous in demanding sources.
Nice backpedal, but communists will always "dispute" their own crimes.
Of course communists would deny that they carried out genocides. No matter how much the victims talk about it.
It is beautiful to see how your kind still seethe against the one nation that managed to hold out against communist occupation this long, though.
Ha, another struggle session tactic, communist cretin. It's called self-respect, something communist shills like you lack.
Lol more backpedalling. You started claiming that I support ukrainian nazis for the "crime" of saying that not all ukrainians are nazis. Then, you had the gall to claim that the only people talking about bolshevik genocides are 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.
You're just mad that your state-sponsored narrative is being questioned.
Merely questioning your lies has you throwing insults left, right and center.
That's all I needed to see to know that you're one of them, and no matter how much you try and use your struggle session tactics, I will simply laugh at how hard you are coping. Is this where tax money from the conquered nations are going? To fund incompetent shills like you?
Now that's kinda funny.
Remember Year Zero, commie.
Yes. It's still not 'genocide'.
I'm not the one who can't produce any sources of information, because he hasn't read any. That would be you. In fact, 'samizdat' is basically the only thing you know about Russian history, and you've been repeating it because no one called you out on your BS. Not happening here.
Basically no one tries to eradicate the people he rules over...
OK, so you can't cite any 'praise'. Which shows that you were lying. Shocker. No one in his right mind would say that "the mass murders that the communists committed were not aimed at eradicating the Russian people, and therefore were not genocide against Russians" is praise, or even anything other than eminently sensible.
Unfortunately, I think it was very long time ago that you were in your right mind, if ever.
No defense of your troon-like claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you.
LOL. I see there are some very unpleasant truths you will have to confront at some point.
Imagine that, someone claims to know a Great Deal about Russia, and you ask him... where he got all that knowledge. Apparently, it was an Ouija Board. Questioning your Ouija Board makes someone a Predditor.
Well-documented, you say? Produce the documents then.
Yes, you said that mentioning books here would result in them getting banned. So on the one hand, your claims are "well-documented" and believed by everyone except communists, but on the other hand, as much as mentioning those great sources of yours (blog posts) will result in them getting banned.
What counts as 'ignorance of world history'? Here's another question you'll not be able to answer. Quick, talk about Reddit again to try to save face!
I said that in the very post you were quoting. Obviously, not all Ukrainians are Nazis. Or even most. But it has a serious Nazi problem, and specifically the people who brand the Holodomor as a genocide are Ukrainian nationalists with... spicy ideologies. Of course, that does not automatically make them wrong, but it does explain why they would make such claims. Many of them to cover their own misdeeds.
OK, so you can't name a single thing that was made up.
You're still keeping secret where you got this great wisdom of yours.
THEY'RE ON TO ME! SHUT IT DOWN!
Say, what is the definition of genocide? NO DEFINITIONS ARE A COMMIE CONSPIRACY. Alright.
Providing a more nuanced understanding of murderous regime is not 'doing PR'. I can refer you to books, which you of course will not read, that paint Hitler and the Nazis in a more favorable light. It is not difficult, considering that the popular image of Nazis is "pure evil". Because history is complex and nuanced. Everyone in history did good things and bad things. It's just that for the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, the bad grossly outweighed such good as they did.
Yes, cause you don't have any.
Apparently, you'll not stop flattering yourself either.
There are intelligent anti-communists. Robert Conquest is one. You are not one.
Observing is not dictating.
The entire historical enterprise rests on sources. Of course everyone expects you to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's just a cripple fight (which this is).
What better way to SMASH THE BAD COMMIE than by presenting those very intelligent sources that you definitely have. Grandma, you sure are merciful in not SMASHING THE BAD COMMIE.
You've got to tell yourself that, to try to salvage at least some face.
Funny how you cite the non-argument most cited by defenders of the US empire.
Empire simp: "Muh Russher invaded a SOVEREIGN COUNTRY."
Normal person: "Eh, do you mean like the US in Iraq?"
Empire simp: "WHATABOUTISM!"
OK, and water is wet.
It's part of genocide, but it certainly isn't sufficient for genocide.
White people. That is the claim you're defending.
No one here is like me. There are no men like me, only me. I meant in the so called real world.
OK, so Mr. Genius is now arguing that the goal of Marx and Engels was 'exterminating white people'.
What's "to go against"? Use retarded labels that have nothing to do with censorship? Yes.
Name ten. Or is that a secret as well?
I said 'can be disputed', not has been disputed.
Ukraine?
You clearly have none. How could you have any? Your sperging all rests on "MY SOURCES ARE SUPER DUPER SECRET", which is because you know that you have nothing with which to back up your BS. That is why you invent hilarious excuses like... posting your sources here will get those books banned.
Basically. Not you though. They accuse them of 'genocide against Ukrainians'. You accuse them of genocide against Russians. That's just stupid.
Still part of genocide and eradication of those they deemed "undesirables". Seethe more, commie.
Cope and seethe. No one's called me out because there's nothing for them to disagree on. You were simply upset that someone stood up against your lies.
The only thing you've done so far is destroy your own arguments and throw insults, commie. You didn't call anything out - but you did demonstrate your own ignorance of world history. Congratulations, you dim-witted dumbfuck.
Another lie.
You have no idea how communist regimes following the writings of Marx and Engels do things, then.
I don't have to cite your own words. They're damning enough as it is.
You're trying pretty hard to divert from the fact that you've been desperately repeating bolshevik talking points when it came to covering up the genocide of the russian people.
Commie simp.
You're repeating the post-WWII soviet 'our genocide is not genocide' lie, commie. But hey, your kind cannot think.
You're a terminally-retarded imbecile if your reading comprehension is this low.
Yeah, I bet your uncle works at nintendo. Go beg him to ban my game boy color or something. Oh wait, you can't. Because you're a fraud, a liar and a commie.
You wish you ran this joint though, although you never will. Cry about it, commie.
You're just mad because all your dirty commie tricks are being ignored. Seethe and cope, predditor filth.
So you can burn them? Hahahaha, no.
You deny that, but that's how you communists have always silenced your critics.
Clever bait, but you've already demonstrated an ignorance of world history. As expected of an ignorant communist shill.
That's a lot of words to try and avoid the fact you brought up Ukraine out of nowhere to try and insult me. Backpedal even harder, commie.
Sure I can. I just don't need to because you're the one making things up.
Of course. You're an ignorant commie's useful idiot. You cannot comprehend what life is like under communist rule.
You can't shut down this site either, commie. Although yes, it fits the behavior patterns of your kind - communists always seek to shut down anything and anyone that questions their narrative.
Stay mad.
You commies changed the definition of genocide after the end of world war 2 to exclude yourselves. A dirty trick, but it's one often used by communists since then.
I guess these books dont exist either, commie.
"muh context!" Of course, when your side commits genocide, its 'muh context and nuance!', predditor scum.
Hahahaha no, no one's falling for that lie.
I have plenty. I'm just not going to share it with you.
Stay mad. I respect myself enough not to cooperate with a communist worm like you. That's the sort of human spirit you communist scumbags seek to stomp out of your victims.
You're just mad because I refuse to break my sources. Your pathetic peer pressure tactics only make me laugh.
Ha, you were the one who claimed I was an American. Your observation skills suck, you inbred dreg in the gene pool of all humanity.
I don't need to share sources with you historical revisionists.
I see you haven't witnessed (or perhaps you have, and are trying to memoryhole that) the communist speedrun of 2020, you dishonest shitwad. I don't really need to smash anyone - communists tend to destroy themselves once they run out of funding.
Nice attempt at trying to get me to commit violence, though, glowfag. You suck at that too. You will never get anyone in this community to commit a mass shooting. Cry about it.
Oh look, communist interrogation tactic #に: social shaming of the imaginary kind. Hahaha, you are a fool if you think that will work on me.
Nice whataboutism, commie. But there is no US empire; just another country slowly succumbing to communist occupation.
Which goes against your original claim that me saying that not all ukrainians are nazis somehow makes me pro-ukraine.
But you're too much of a cretin to even admit that.
There you go.
Unfortunately for you, the soviet authorities demanded a change in the definition of genocide to exclude their own actions. That's the reason why you desperately claim that the bolsheviks did not commit genocide; you know that they did, and must hide that fact. If it became widespread knowledge that you commies managed to commit genocide on a greater scale than nazi germany, then yes - your ideology would be decimated and shunned to death.
It's your neck on the line when that lie finally collapses, commie.
You're trying pretty hard to deny the ethnic identity of the russian peoples, you dishonest communist shill.
Of course, no one here is a disgusting, dishonest communist like you. You're a pathetic shill that's STILL mad about how the communist genocides simply wont stay buried, no matter how hard you claim that the ideology is 'dead' and scream down any sort of discussion of bolsheviks and their genocides.
Your ignorance of the baseline behavior of all communist regimes is fascinating. Truly, you are a useful idiot.
Another lie. Now you're claiming that samizdat emerged for no reason.
And have your kind haul them off to the gulags? Hah, you're a single-digit IQ subhuman retard if you think I'll tell you even one.
Nice backpedal, commie. But I know your kind has been doing PR facelifts for the Khmer Rouge too.
You're pretty desperate to twist everything I say to Ukraine, aren't you?
Two things wrong with your idiotic reply, though.
Paul Revere isn't Ukrainian.
Ukraine isn't occupied.
Of course, your obsession marks your desperation to mark all conversation of communist-run genocides as 'autistic screeching' by 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.
Too bad, commie. It won't work.
Another lie. My response to you has been 'hahaha communist, I won't tell you what my sources are' and you've tried every struggle session tactic you've been taught, only to fail hilariously each and every time.
I revel in your desperate screeching.
Typical communist lies. I wasn't talking about Ukraine in the first place. You brought that up to try and shame me into silence. Too bad, that didn't work either.
Your argument is what's stupid. After all, you ignore the fact the bolsheviks committed the holomodor because it's an inconvenient fact for you commies, and I've seen the convoluted levels of mental gymnastics you go to try and PR facelift that. Of course, it's what I'd expect from an ignorant moron such as yourself.
Remember Year Zero, commie.