I agree with that and that's why if I were to restructure education it would be pushed down quite a bit, where pre-teens all learn the basic requirements to exist, i.e. read/write, arithmetic, history, government and such. I'd take most of this out of schools entirely. Teenagers on it gets more and more specialized such that an accountant is not learning geometry and an engineer is not learning creative writing. Stringent barriers for entry though in a lot of things. We can't have everyone in a coddle-fest.
Programming would never lose math though, because I'd never want to hire one for a game that couldn't tell me how to get the speed of an object beyond "playerspeed = object.speed;". Be able to break it down at least a few layers even if you don't have to do it in practice, because that way I know you'd understand. I'd probably never be in a position to hire programmers anyway though, because I'd want to throw stuff at Javascript framework monkeys.
Yes, absolutely. I never did that in school. I think maybe one year we talked about taxes, but it was a how to file your taxes thing. Over a day or two.
No idea how I learned because my parents were shit at it. Maybe from my grandfather. He was old enough to remember the great depression as a kid, and I think it stuck with him.
We never got taught how to even do that much, sadly…
Awesome about your grandfather!
Mine were sort of good with practical stuff (boats, cars, and woodcraft/model-making, respectively), but never taught me that sort of “key life skill” stuff, I guess!
Although those other skills could still come in handy, of course.
But yeah, literally no one ever taught me about taxes, ever, lol. Which has really sucked, tbh!
I don't think my grandfather ever sat down and necessarily taught me financial things. It's just he was always open about his mindset. He didn't just use credit to buy things because he wanted it right now, he thought about it first and tried to be smart. It was like actually living the example versus preaching the example and then doing something else. If you ask me kids can pick up on that kind of stuff.
I think the taxes thing I learned in a class that was required to go to work some times in lieu of school. I left after lunch every day my last two years of high school. I worked in a warehouse. Sounds awful, but a high school kid that gets to go to school less, have every evening and weekend off, and get a consistent hundred bucks a week is a happy high school kid.
I agree with that and that's why if I were to restructure education it would be pushed down quite a bit, where pre-teens all learn the basic requirements to exist, i.e. read/write, arithmetic, history, government and such. I'd take most of this out of schools entirely. Teenagers on it gets more and more specialized such that an accountant is not learning geometry and an engineer is not learning creative writing. Stringent barriers for entry though in a lot of things. We can't have everyone in a coddle-fest.
Programming would never lose math though, because I'd never want to hire one for a game that couldn't tell me how to get the speed of an object beyond "playerspeed = object.speed;". Be able to break it down at least a few layers even if you don't have to do it in practice, because that way I know you'd understand. I'd probably never be in a position to hire programmers anyway though, because I'd want to throw stuff at Javascript framework monkeys.
Kids should also learn stuff like basic personal finance and taxation, in school, in some mandatory class…
Because they don’t, here. The expectation is that parents teach that stuff, and mine, for example, flatly refused to do so…
Which I think is not good enough, personally, because there are/were definitely others like me…
Yes, absolutely. I never did that in school. I think maybe one year we talked about taxes, but it was a how to file your taxes thing. Over a day or two.
No idea how I learned because my parents were shit at it. Maybe from my grandfather. He was old enough to remember the great depression as a kid, and I think it stuck with him.
That’s good!
We never got taught how to even do that much, sadly…
Awesome about your grandfather!
Mine were sort of good with practical stuff (boats, cars, and woodcraft/model-making, respectively), but never taught me that sort of “key life skill” stuff, I guess!
Although those other skills could still come in handy, of course.
But yeah, literally no one ever taught me about taxes, ever, lol. Which has really sucked, tbh!
I don't think my grandfather ever sat down and necessarily taught me financial things. It's just he was always open about his mindset. He didn't just use credit to buy things because he wanted it right now, he thought about it first and tried to be smart. It was like actually living the example versus preaching the example and then doing something else. If you ask me kids can pick up on that kind of stuff.
I think the taxes thing I learned in a class that was required to go to work some times in lieu of school. I left after lunch every day my last two years of high school. I worked in a warehouse. Sounds awful, but a high school kid that gets to go to school less, have every evening and weekend off, and get a consistent hundred bucks a week is a happy high school kid.