And more to the point the men have to have an incentive to get and stay busy. Feminism replacing those incentives with shame won't work, as the article discusses.
Incentives are something leftists will never talk about because they know they are creating the wrong ones. It should be the only realpolitik topic that we talk about.
It's just like welfare. They will do anything but talk about the logic of the work-replacement effect.
One thing I would disagree with the article on is the concept that the incel is the threat. Incels still desire attention and relationships with women. It's men going their own way (MGTOW) who are the threat and what feminism deem to be their final boss. Of course, most men who would be considered to be MGTOW just refer to themselves as bachelors or don't label themselves at all. This is why every well known MGTOW forum (outside of this site) online has been closed down while the main incel forum is still online, has been for a while and there is no push to shut it down. I get the impression that the article writer is mixing up the core incel community with the wider manosphere community. Incels who follow black pill philosophy (no offence intended here) are NOT going to be 8/10 men in looks and status!
I don't think the distinction between the two matters all that much for this article's purposes. Men not having access to high value women to incentivize the labor that society needs means society gets less of that labor, regardless of why the men don't have that access.
I do agree with you that the writer is using the term "incel" when MGTOW is more fitting. It's probably one of those rare misapplications of the term that isn't malicious. I also agree that MGTOW is a much bigger threat to the feminist project than incels are. Incels make for useful bogeymen, but at the end of the day they're just an optics problem that the feminists need to sweep under the rug. They can still theoretically be controlled because they still desire female attention (although in practice that would require a far more credible carrot than the feminists are willing to offer). That's why driving them off mainstream sites like Reddit was enough. MGTOW on the other hand has the potential to derail the entire clown show if enough men adopt the lifestyle. That's why they're going scorched earth on MGTOW. It's really easy to see what the regime really sees as a threat by looking at how hard they go after different dissident communities.
Yes "societies" figured out that men had to be kept busy. The ones that had a bunch of angry incels running around didn't last.
And more to the point the men have to have an incentive to get and stay busy. Feminism replacing those incentives with shame won't work, as the article discusses.
Incentives are something leftists will never talk about because they know they are creating the wrong ones. It should be the only realpolitik topic that we talk about.
It's just like welfare. They will do anything but talk about the logic of the work-replacement effect.
One thing I would disagree with the article on is the concept that the incel is the threat. Incels still desire attention and relationships with women. It's men going their own way (MGTOW) who are the threat and what feminism deem to be their final boss. Of course, most men who would be considered to be MGTOW just refer to themselves as bachelors or don't label themselves at all. This is why every well known MGTOW forum (outside of this site) online has been closed down while the main incel forum is still online, has been for a while and there is no push to shut it down. I get the impression that the article writer is mixing up the core incel community with the wider manosphere community. Incels who follow black pill philosophy (no offence intended here) are NOT going to be 8/10 men in looks and status!
I don't think the distinction between the two matters all that much for this article's purposes. Men not having access to high value women to incentivize the labor that society needs means society gets less of that labor, regardless of why the men don't have that access.
I do agree with you that the writer is using the term "incel" when MGTOW is more fitting. It's probably one of those rare misapplications of the term that isn't malicious. I also agree that MGTOW is a much bigger threat to the feminist project than incels are. Incels make for useful bogeymen, but at the end of the day they're just an optics problem that the feminists need to sweep under the rug. They can still theoretically be controlled because they still desire female attention (although in practice that would require a far more credible carrot than the feminists are willing to offer). That's why driving them off mainstream sites like Reddit was enough. MGTOW on the other hand has the potential to derail the entire clown show if enough men adopt the lifestyle. That's why they're going scorched earth on MGTOW. It's really easy to see what the regime really sees as a threat by looking at how hard they go after different dissident communities.