Sometimes you simply have to invoke the "go away you stupid piece of shit" clause even if someone is technically following the rules as they're written but not responding to negative feedback like a normal person.
Users have every right to say that, but moderators do not - and certainly not to enforce it. The whole point of places like this is to allow unpopular views to be heard, even if they annoy other users.
Now, if someone is actively spamming every thread and generally being a nuisance, it's something else - but that should be content-neutral. It shouldn't matter if his position is "puppies are cute" or "women are bad" or "Ivermectin cures Covid".
That's the problem with a lot of people, even people who you'd generally initially think were chill, they can't separate the two and immediately make things personal. It's a classic example of why letting normies use the internet, them and people with the midwit mentality are such retards they inevitably take internet shitposting too seriously even though everybody who's used the internet knows most of the time nonsense on the internet is just that, nonsense. Mind you, what normies have done to the internet is nothing compared to what middle class leftist karen moms are doing trying to outright regulate speech because mean words aren't allowed in the playground.
Such idiocy is found everywhere. There was a longtime user of KiA2 who left the subreddit because I, not as moderator but as a user, said that Russia was in the right.
Yeah, absolutely, I just find it incredibly frustrating that these are grown adults that I'm experiencing this with because this is some school children level bullshit to the extreme. The worse thing they do and this has really made me actually angry in the past is you can see they've decided that this is the hill they're going to die on and the only way anyone is going to stay friends with them is if they apologise for having the wrong opinion and crawling back to them.
It doesn't need to be about anything political or particularly serious they've just woken up one morning and as I've described before go "URGABURGA!" at you and it sucks but you just have to move on. I think I get so bothered about it because it's one of those moments where you realise "Holy shit, I'm the fucking normal one" and these are the classic lizards with human skin I rant about and they just seem to be like sleeper agents that get activated with a fucking keyword lol.
I'm not bad at socialising or anything but I do get extreme mood swings compared to others when it comes to it but I'm at least self-aware enough to know when it's a bad time to hang out with people or even post online. I think this potentially gives me an advantage over people who maybe don't realise that's what's going on but that's just me chatting generally about the psychology of all of this.
Moderators absolutely do, and should, simply click the I Win when it's clear you're dealing with a pathological little shithead who isn't affected by the normal immune system that communities have. If they can't be trusted to do that in incredibly obvious cases then you need somebody else to have the button, if your community has too many shit for brains libertarians to understand that then they deserve what they get.
I mean, you just listed a bunch of vague descriptors that would describe 90% of the community here if you asked someone who didn't like us about it.
KIA1 mods said that anyone who criticized moderation was a pathological little shithead just trying to stir trouble. I certainly wouldn't give them an out to just ban any criticism.
He's not doing any harm to the community though. If he were, I'd agree with you that at least he has to be slapped down - because the first rule of anything is self-preservation.
Sometimes you simply have to invoke the "go away you stupid piece of shit" clause even if someone is technically following the rules as they're written but not responding to negative feedback like a normal person.
Users have every right to say that, but moderators do not - and certainly not to enforce it. The whole point of places like this is to allow unpopular views to be heard, even if they annoy other users.
Now, if someone is actively spamming every thread and generally being a nuisance, it's something else - but that should be content-neutral. It shouldn't matter if his position is "puppies are cute" or "women are bad" or "Ivermectin cures Covid".
That's the problem with a lot of people, even people who you'd generally initially think were chill, they can't separate the two and immediately make things personal. It's a classic example of why letting normies use the internet, them and people with the midwit mentality are such retards they inevitably take internet shitposting too seriously even though everybody who's used the internet knows most of the time nonsense on the internet is just that, nonsense. Mind you, what normies have done to the internet is nothing compared to what middle class leftist karen moms are doing trying to outright regulate speech because mean words aren't allowed in the playground.
Such idiocy is found everywhere. There was a longtime user of KiA2 who left the subreddit because I, not as moderator but as a user, said that Russia was in the right.
Yeah, absolutely, I just find it incredibly frustrating that these are grown adults that I'm experiencing this with because this is some school children level bullshit to the extreme. The worse thing they do and this has really made me actually angry in the past is you can see they've decided that this is the hill they're going to die on and the only way anyone is going to stay friends with them is if they apologise for having the wrong opinion and crawling back to them.
It doesn't need to be about anything political or particularly serious they've just woken up one morning and as I've described before go "URGABURGA!" at you and it sucks but you just have to move on. I think I get so bothered about it because it's one of those moments where you realise "Holy shit, I'm the fucking normal one" and these are the classic lizards with human skin I rant about and they just seem to be like sleeper agents that get activated with a fucking keyword lol.
I'm not bad at socialising or anything but I do get extreme mood swings compared to others when it comes to it but I'm at least self-aware enough to know when it's a bad time to hang out with people or even post online. I think this potentially gives me an advantage over people who maybe don't realise that's what's going on but that's just me chatting generally about the psychology of all of this.
Moderators absolutely do, and should, simply click the I Win when it's clear you're dealing with a pathological little shithead who isn't affected by the normal immune system that communities have. If they can't be trusted to do that in incredibly obvious cases then you need somebody else to have the button, if your community has too many shit for brains libertarians to understand that then they deserve what they get.
I mean, you just listed a bunch of vague descriptors that would describe 90% of the community here if you asked someone who didn't like us about it.
KIA1 mods said that anyone who criticized moderation was a pathological little shithead just trying to stir trouble. I certainly wouldn't give them an out to just ban any criticism.
The most important factor of all is making sure 105-110 IQ types like the KIA moderators absolutely never have any real authority.
He's not doing any harm to the community though. If he were, I'd agree with you that at least he has to be slapped down - because the first rule of anything is self-preservation.
Having wretchedly irritating little tumors who wallow in negative attention and don't respond to negative feedback always does harm to a community.