More importantly, it is very typical to put your demands higher than they actually are so that when you negotiate down you still get what you want.
Correct, but these are not demands, these are preconditions for any negotiation. This is clearly an attempt to prolong the war as long as possible.
This time with even more Western weapons that even just the samples have been rolling the Russians
Are you talking about those wreckages of the Bradleys and Leopards? Gotta say, there's nothing more satisfying than seeing the wrecks of Nazi-driven German tanks that were attacking Russia.
not to mention Ukraine likely being in NATO or some sort of alliance protected by the US and other Western nations.
You sound more enthusiastic about getting nuked than the average person is. Jingoism really is a disease. The victims of US empire cheering like mad dogs in favor of the US empire elsewhere, quite astonishing.
Also, in both cases they suffered extremely minor crew losses. So I would suppress that boner over "dead Nazis" if I was you.
You sound more enthusiastic about getting nuked
More like I have learned that when you are dealing with someone who acts tough but isnt, you respond by taking their gun, putting it up to your head, and saying "Pull the trigger! You wont, no balls!" Because they dont have the balls, and that is when you pull your own gun.
The way you invite the danger you fear is by acting weak.
US Empire
Honestly, I have come to learn the Republic was overrated. People say we are Rome 2.0? Sure, why not. Bring on the Empire! You aint seen Pax Americana yet, boy!
Link to Reddit, which links to Twitter, of a pro-Ukraine account with Mastodon in bio, which claims that it's undergoing repairs.
That's your heroic victory? No wonder the Westoids have been eerily quiet about their puppet's "counteroffensive".
So I would suppress that boner over "dead Nazis" if I was you.
I only said that they were driven by Nazis, and only to keep the symmetry with WW2. Unlike the Westoids cheering for Russian tourists being killed by sharks, I don't like to see people die - even confirmed Azov Battalion members. If I can see Western tanks get absolutely wrecked with 0 Ukrainians dying, so much the better! I can enjoy it with a clean conscience.
More like I have learned that when you are dealing with someone who acts tough but isnt, you respond by taking their gun, putting it up to your head, and saying "Pull the trigger! You wont, no balls!" Because they dont have the balls, and that is when you pull your own gun.
Got it, Putin isn't tough but Biden is. Russia isn't, but the country that places Puppy Play fetishists in charge of nuclear waste is.
I mean, aside from the sheer craziness of this, how do you make this stuff up?
The way you invite the danger you fear is by acting weak.
No, you do it by being weak. 'Memba how Russia was weak in the 1990s and the West used it to plunder the country and expand NATO up to its borders? Or China's Century of Humiliation? Or how Mexico was invaded by the US and had half its territory stolen?
Honestly, I have come to learn the Republic was overrated. People say we are Rome 2.0? Sure, why not.
The US sure has the degeneracy lined up. And in case you're not just playing dumb, obviously Rome had a territorial empire long before its rule transformed into an empire.
But of course, you said this to evade the question I was asking you. How come you know full well how bad the regime is, because you suffer from it at home, and yet cheer for it elsewhere? You know they lie about basically everything, including every war they got you into, but this time it's somehow different?
I was previously pro-Ukraine, until I saw John Mearsheimer's explanation of why the regime was responsible for the problems there. I'd actually supported the Maidan coup because the media here misinformed me about it. But after corona, all the lies in the past few years, how they're literally killing us with energy and farming policies, the mere fact that my government is pro-Ukraine would have been sufficient to make me pro-Russia. The enemy of my enemy...
(btw, you got an upvote from me simply because I enjoy the conversation, as grievously wrong as you are)
Link to Reddit, which links to Twitter, of a pro-Ukraine account with Mastodon in bio, which claims that it's undergoing repairs
Today I learned photographic evidence dont real.
I mean, I could have linked to a news article, but all of them were shitting their pants and screaming how the end is neigh because they dont understand how to military. Because they news doesnt actually care as much as you think they do.
No wonder the Westoids have been eerily quiet about their puppet's "counteroffensive".
We call that "Operational Security" here in the West, but knowing how Eastoids fight their wars I wouldnt expect them to understand. Or do you forget that there was also not much about Kherson until there were Ukrainians marching in the streets, and then we got to see everything they had done since it didnt matter anymore.
Got it, Putin isn't tough but Biden is
Not so much Biden is tough. Just Putin is even weaker.
Russia isn't, but the country that places Puppy Play fetishists in charge of nuclear waste is.
I know, right? Now imagine how much more powerful we would be if we stopped doing deliberately retarded shit because we felt like it.
'Memba how Russia was weak in the 1990s and the West used it to plunder the country and expand NATO up to its borders?
Looks at the things the Soviets did to them over the course of 50 years
Gee, I wonder why they all wanted to go join the "Fuck Russia" club, and why Poland is constantly looking for a reason to go smash some Russian skulls. Or are you so far gone you think they were forced into it instead of joining willingly?
Or China's Century of Humiliation? Or how Mexico was invaded by the US and had half its territory stolen?
Correct. When you are weak, then the terms are dictated to you whether you like it or not. Especially when you are so weak you get wailed on by someone with one hand behind their back.
And in case you're not just playing dumb, obviously Rome had a territorial empire long before its rule transformed into an empire.
And then it formalized it, expanded to eat the entire known world, and continued to live for over 1,000 years. Sounds like a good deal to me. Especially since I consider a Woke American Empire superior to anything China or Russia would offer me (I can at least get rid of the Woke and get new elites, but keep the Empire).
A picture of one tank of unspecified time in some location at some particular moment in time is proof positive that the 10+ Bradleys destroyed "lived". I can with as much evidence say that the Russians evacuated it and were cleaning it up to install it in front of the American embassy.
I mean, I could have linked to a news article, but all of them were shitting their pants and screaming how the end is neigh because they dont understand how to military. Because they news doesnt actually care as much as you think they do.
How interesting, could you tell me why the news would be "shitting [its] pants" due to what it views as Ukrainian defeats?
We call that "Operational Security" here in the West, but knowing how Eastoids fight their wars I wouldnt expect them to understand.
'Scuse me Sir, I'm a MIDDLE-Eastoid. Though we're not good at war either, we tend to lose them in six days. The Taliban which kicked the ass of the Americans are not Middle Easterners, after all.
Or do you forget that there was also not much about Kherson until there were Ukrainians marching in the streets
Did they take it by force? No. The Russian command just decided to retreat to more defensible borders. How does this redeem the not very impressive results of your 'counteroffensive'?
If I were you, I'd have said: "see, the Ukrainians sent thousands to die in a feint against Kherson, and after the Russian felt safe, they struck into Kharkov oblast". That would have made more sense than whatever this is.
Not so much Biden is tough. Just Putin is even weaker.
This is your mind on war propaganda. No disrespect.
I know, right? Now imagine how much more powerful we would be if we stopped doing deliberately retarded shit because we felt like it.
Maybe you'd have managed to beat the Taliban, instead of being utterly humiliated by guys wearing sandals, after spending trillions and thousands of lives.
But hey, at leaast Raytheon won, like it's winning the War of the Reconquest now.
Looks at the things the Soviets did to them over the course of 50 years.
It has nothing at all to do with "the things the Soviets did" and everything with simple balance of power. Russia could have been the most benevolent regional hegemon, and they'd have done the same thing.
Gee, I wonder why they all wanted to go join the "Fuck Russia" club
Huh, so you admit that NATO is the "fuck Russia club" and that expanding NATO is an act of aggression directed against the Russians. Thus, Russia is completely in the right to resist it as it is doing.
Correct. When you are weak, then the terms are dictated to you whether you like it or not. Especially when you are so weak you get wailed on by someone with one hand behind their back.
It didn't take much for your to rip off the mask of "we hate invasions!!!!" and "RUSSHER STARTED A WAR" and to admit that all your actions are just power plays. That someone victimized himself by the US regime would be such a fanatical, warmongering supporter of its expansion abroad is quite odd, but we all have our flaws.
And then it formalized it, expanded to eat the entire known world, and continued to live for over 1,000 years. Sounds like a good deal to me.
I respect that. You openly want to plunder the entire world, rather than hiding behind liberal pieties that your own regime routinely violates. What bothers me is that the constant lying on the part of the Americans about what they are doing. They go around killing millions of people, and then feign outrage over war and invasions. You just openly want to kill millions of people for your own profit (or so you think), which has been historically what empires have done, and is therefore worthy of respect quite aside from being commendable honesty.
Especially since I consider a Woke American Empire superior to anything China or Russia would offer me (I can at least get rid of the Woke and get new elites,
Correct, but these are not demands, these are preconditions for any negotiation. This is clearly an attempt to prolong the war as long as possible.
Are you talking about those wreckages of the Bradleys and Leopards? Gotta say, there's nothing more satisfying than seeing the wrecks of Nazi-driven German tanks that were attacking Russia.
You sound more enthusiastic about getting nuked than the average person is. Jingoism really is a disease. The victims of US empire cheering like mad dogs in favor of the US empire elsewhere, quite astonishing.
Leopard: "I lived, bitch"
Bradley: "I lived, bitch"
Also, in both cases they suffered extremely minor crew losses. So I would suppress that boner over "dead Nazis" if I was you.
More like I have learned that when you are dealing with someone who acts tough but isnt, you respond by taking their gun, putting it up to your head, and saying "Pull the trigger! You wont, no balls!" Because they dont have the balls, and that is when you pull your own gun.
The way you invite the danger you fear is by acting weak.
Honestly, I have come to learn the Republic was overrated. People say we are Rome 2.0? Sure, why not. Bring on the Empire! You aint seen Pax Americana yet, boy!
Link to Reddit, which links to Twitter, of a pro-Ukraine account with Mastodon in bio, which claims that it's undergoing repairs.
That's your heroic victory? No wonder the Westoids have been eerily quiet about their puppet's "counteroffensive".
I only said that they were driven by Nazis, and only to keep the symmetry with WW2. Unlike the Westoids cheering for Russian tourists being killed by sharks, I don't like to see people die - even confirmed Azov Battalion members. If I can see Western tanks get absolutely wrecked with 0 Ukrainians dying, so much the better! I can enjoy it with a clean conscience.
Got it, Putin isn't tough but Biden is. Russia isn't, but the country that places Puppy Play fetishists in charge of nuclear waste is.
I mean, aside from the sheer craziness of this, how do you make this stuff up?
No, you do it by being weak. 'Memba how Russia was weak in the 1990s and the West used it to plunder the country and expand NATO up to its borders? Or China's Century of Humiliation? Or how Mexico was invaded by the US and had half its territory stolen?
The US sure has the degeneracy lined up. And in case you're not just playing dumb, obviously Rome had a territorial empire long before its rule transformed into an empire.
But of course, you said this to evade the question I was asking you. How come you know full well how bad the regime is, because you suffer from it at home, and yet cheer for it elsewhere? You know they lie about basically everything, including every war they got you into, but this time it's somehow different?
I was previously pro-Ukraine, until I saw John Mearsheimer's explanation of why the regime was responsible for the problems there. I'd actually supported the Maidan coup because the media here misinformed me about it. But after corona, all the lies in the past few years, how they're literally killing us with energy and farming policies, the mere fact that my government is pro-Ukraine would have been sufficient to make me pro-Russia. The enemy of my enemy...
(btw, you got an upvote from me simply because I enjoy the conversation, as grievously wrong as you are)
Today I learned photographic evidence dont real.
I mean, I could have linked to a news article, but all of them were shitting their pants and screaming how the end is neigh because they dont understand how to military. Because they news doesnt actually care as much as you think they do.
We call that "Operational Security" here in the West, but knowing how Eastoids fight their wars I wouldnt expect them to understand. Or do you forget that there was also not much about Kherson until there were Ukrainians marching in the streets, and then we got to see everything they had done since it didnt matter anymore.
Not so much Biden is tough. Just Putin is even weaker.
I know, right? Now imagine how much more powerful we would be if we stopped doing deliberately retarded shit because we felt like it.
Looks at the things the Soviets did to them over the course of 50 years
Gee, I wonder why they all wanted to go join the "Fuck Russia" club, and why Poland is constantly looking for a reason to go smash some Russian skulls. Or are you so far gone you think they were forced into it instead of joining willingly?
Correct. When you are weak, then the terms are dictated to you whether you like it or not. Especially when you are so weak you get wailed on by someone with one hand behind their back.
And then it formalized it, expanded to eat the entire known world, and continued to live for over 1,000 years. Sounds like a good deal to me. Especially since I consider a Woke American Empire superior to anything China or Russia would offer me (I can at least get rid of the Woke and get new elites, but keep the Empire).
A picture of one tank of unspecified time in some location at some particular moment in time is proof positive that the 10+ Bradleys destroyed "lived". I can with as much evidence say that the Russians evacuated it and were cleaning it up to install it in front of the American embassy.
How interesting, could you tell me why the news would be "shitting [its] pants" due to what it views as Ukrainian defeats?
'Scuse me Sir, I'm a MIDDLE-Eastoid. Though we're not good at war either, we tend to lose them in six days. The Taliban which kicked the ass of the Americans are not Middle Easterners, after all.
Did they take it by force? No. The Russian command just decided to retreat to more defensible borders. How does this redeem the not very impressive results of your 'counteroffensive'?
If I were you, I'd have said: "see, the Ukrainians sent thousands to die in a feint against Kherson, and after the Russian felt safe, they struck into Kharkov oblast". That would have made more sense than whatever this is.
This is your mind on war propaganda. No disrespect.
Maybe you'd have managed to beat the Taliban, instead of being utterly humiliated by guys wearing sandals, after spending trillions and thousands of lives.
But hey, at leaast Raytheon won, like it's winning the War of the Reconquest now.
It has nothing at all to do with "the things the Soviets did" and everything with simple balance of power. Russia could have been the most benevolent regional hegemon, and they'd have done the same thing.
Huh, so you admit that NATO is the "fuck Russia club" and that expanding NATO is an act of aggression directed against the Russians. Thus, Russia is completely in the right to resist it as it is doing.
It didn't take much for your to rip off the mask of "we hate invasions!!!!" and "RUSSHER STARTED A WAR" and to admit that all your actions are just power plays. That someone victimized himself by the US regime would be such a fanatical, warmongering supporter of its expansion abroad is quite odd, but we all have our flaws.
I respect that. You openly want to plunder the entire world, rather than hiding behind liberal pieties that your own regime routinely violates. What bothers me is that the constant lying on the part of the Americans about what they are doing. They go around killing millions of people, and then feign outrage over war and invasions. You just openly want to kill millions of people for your own profit (or so you think), which has been historically what empires have done, and is therefore worthy of respect quite aside from being commendable honesty.
Optimistic.