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It seems to me that you moved the goalposts to something that you think Africa won't satisfy.
Here as well. Suddenly metallurgy is the standard for civilization? And of course, these things move about a lot. Was this actually produced in Germany? Even in late Roman times, 'Germany' was not 'civilized', but tribal. Why do you think there was such movement of peoples?
I'm saying it doesn't matter what goal posts are used, same result which is that Africa below the desert was the retarded stepson.
And similarly, whatever the goal posts you'll dither over details because that gives you an out to ignore the reality, which is the Germans (and all other peoples) were so far advanced over Africa they may as well have been aliens or wizards.
I know you don't want to accept the reality of these differences you can even see with your own eyes in artifacts, so here's a challenge for you: find anything about historic Africa where you believe they were more advanced than other places, or even just not very, very far behind. What's your best example to show Africa in a positive light?
I mean maybe you'll educate me here, because I can't find a single fucking thing and if that's because I failed at research I want to know so I can at least try to do better.
But your first goalpost was not really successful at that. Most alphabets are copied from others, which is why isolation matters.
When? In 300 AD? Surely not.
Nope, I am fully aware of racial differences in IQ as well as other things. I just don't think that your arguments were particularly strong. You started out with an incorrect impression of literacy, and then moved to some other things that you thought were stronger points. The idea that every place was literate 5000 years ago is quite laughable, but you seem to be open-minded enough to admit that.
Like I said, the advancement of peoples in isolation is not a valid measuring stick, no more for Africa than the people of the Canary Islands.
I'm not questioning that conclusion. Just what you then conclude on that basis. There are environmental factors as well, as well as geographical factors, that may account for part or all of Africa's lack of development. You also cannot take development at any given moment in history and make conclusions on that basis. In 1000 BC, you'd have concluded that clearly, the tawny and Mongolian peoples are superior to everyone else, as all white people were at the level of savagery.
Well isn't this interesting. I said they had writing 5000 years ago, and you changed that to "literacy". Wonder why you would do that? You're moving the goal posts because the writing you were shown wasn't 'advanced' enough.
Again I didn't say alphabets. Cuneiform is writing, so is Chinese and neither have alphabets.
Sub-Saharan Africa isn't particularly physically isolated compared to say the Americas.
Again moving the goal posts. I didn't say particular peoples were "superior" to others at certain times, I said that they all had certain features by at least 5000 years ago - except sub-Saharan Africa (and Australia).
All you've done is move goal posts, which is what I called out beforehand since it's entirely predictable. People like you can be well aware of the body of evidence and the inescapable conclusion, yet refuse to draw it. "It's geography, no it's environmental, or... something else."
It's possible that Egypt was given a star gate and that's how they became civilized. Possible means nothing without likelihood, and I'm sure you've not even thought about how probable some other explanation is - it's about the same as the star gate.
Writing is literacy.
Right, and no one claimed you said anything. Only that nearly all alphabets, which are systems of writing, are copied from others. Not sure why you're so defensive all of a sudden.
The Americas are a good deal larger though, with a greater variety of climates. And even there, you see that 'civilizations' are concentrated in particular areas - the tribes in what is now the US did not have agriculture before the arrival of whites, so no civilization.
Wait, you're actually returning to your initial claim that northern Europe had writing 5000 years ago? My entire point is that if you made judgments 3000 years ago, let alone 5000 years ago, your conclusion regarding white people would not be favorable at all.
BLACKS BAD.
All the early civilizations formed around highly fertile river valleys: Egypt has the Nile, Mesopotamia the two rivers, and the Indus Valley speaks for itself. Please note where these areas are and the average IQs that studies show for them.
I think it's very likely that geography and environment played a large role. I could explain it for you if you're at all interested, but I think you're just interested in 'proving' negative claims about one group. That seems to be the only explanation that you'll accept. You don't want other factors to play any role at all. On the other hand, I'm perfectly willing to accept that average IQ plays a role, but I don't want to ignore all other factors for my pet explanation that just suits me really well.