It's little different in Europe. "History" is World War II to most people. It may be even more salient because people here actually suffered under Nazi occupation, and therefore think it's the worst thing ever (because they want to play the victim).
More of you suffered under Soviets and other commie dictatorships than under Hitler. There are countless stories of Romanians told by their great grandparents how the difference between Nazi occupation and commie was night and day, the latter being absolute hell. And last I checked, Ceausescu and his like who drove their countries into depths of misery they still can't recover from were all communists, none were Nazis.
Most communist deaths are due to famine, not deliberate slaughter.
And the famines were directly caused by the ruling communists, you think the bolsheviks were a group of 30 IQ mouthbreathers who had no idea what they're doing? What sounds worse, a German soldier putting a bullet in the back of your head and sending you off a cliff, or your ruling jew taking all of your crops and everything you own and causing you to die a slow and painful death from malnourishment, so much so that some even went to cannibalize their own children?
And still Hitler and his wars outdo those in the USSR in a shorter period of time.
Yes people die in war, am I supposed to now claim that Russians were trying to genocide us Fins by invading in 39? You stood in Hitler's way and then complain about being a casualty. How come Hitler didn't kill millions of us Fins? Or even Croatians? Or Estonians? Or Italians? You stood in the way because your ruling jews sold you lies of the ''motherland'' and collectivism, and you got slaughtered for it, can't really see how you're a victim there.
There's just historians. Some of them are left-wing, others are more objective
Law enforced history doesn't strike me as objective, I can deny the Holodomor or even say the Ukrainians are to blame for it for allowing it to happen and no one will give a shit.
I don't remember Hitler invading my country in 39, killing my countrymen and later sending the rest to gulags, I do however remember stories told to me by people who actually lived under Hitler in Germany telling me how wasn't that bad actually, meanwhile I'm yet to hear any Russian, even the most brainwashed vatnik ones, say how life in Stalin's Russia was even remotely good. Even the dumb ones who say life in USSR was better are always talking about USSR decades after Stalin.
More of you suffered under Soviets and other commie dictatorships than under Hitler.
Yes, but not the richer countries. Moreover, those richer countries went to war with Nazi Germany. The fact that you are Finnish and have the contrary opinion proves my case: you were at war with the USSR, so now Russia bad.
There are countless stories of Romanians told by their great grandparents how the difference between Nazi occupation and commie was night and day, the latter being absolute hell
Show me a few of them. Also, Romania was not occupied by the Nazis. It was led by a pro-German fascist lite Ion Antonescu. Of course being occupied is worse than not being occupied. But look at Poland to figure out which was worse.
And last I checked, Ceausescu and his like who drove their countries into depths of misery they still can't recover from were all communists, none were Nazis.
Ceausescu now has 2/3 popularity in Romania. I don't think the same is true of Antonescu.
And the famines were directly caused by the ruling communists, you think the bolsheviks were a group of 30 IQ mouthbreathers who had no idea what they're doing?
They were smart and competent. But not even the most brilliant minds, which they certainly weren't, could make that system work. There is dispute about whether the Holodomor was intentional, but most of the communist famines were not intentional. Some of them were the result of negligence and not caring, like when the USSR was giving grain to its satellites after World War II when a million people starved.
or your ruling jew taking all of your crops
Stalin is a Jew, that's a new one.
and everything you own and causing you to die a slow and painful death from malnourishment, so much so that some even went to cannibalize their own children?
And yet many fought willingly to defeat Hitler and the Nazis, despite everything that the Bolsheviks had done. Clearly, they thought the Nazis were worse.
How come Hitler didn't kill millions of us Fins?
Cause you weren't on his border, and you prostituted yourself to him like you now do to NATO.
Or Italians?
The Germans literally intentionally spread pestilence in Italy, killing tens of thousands, in retaliaton for its exit from the Axis.
I do however remember stories told to me by people who actually lived under Hitler in Germany telling me how wasn't that bad actually
Great. Then you also accept that Ceausescu wasn't that bad, same for Stalin.
Like I said, even on his own terms, he was bad, as he destroyed the country.
Even the dumb ones who say life in USSR was better
Wait, so when Germans say that life under Hitler wasn't that bad, it's Gospel truth, but Russians who say that life in the USSR was better are 'dumb'? Curious.
More of you suffered under Soviets and other commie dictatorships than under Hitler. There are countless stories of Romanians told by their great grandparents how the difference between Nazi occupation and commie was night and day, the latter being absolute hell. And last I checked, Ceausescu and his like who drove their countries into depths of misery they still can't recover from were all communists, none were Nazis.
And the famines were directly caused by the ruling communists, you think the bolsheviks were a group of 30 IQ mouthbreathers who had no idea what they're doing? What sounds worse, a German soldier putting a bullet in the back of your head and sending you off a cliff, or your ruling jew taking all of your crops and everything you own and causing you to die a slow and painful death from malnourishment, so much so that some even went to cannibalize their own children?
Yes people die in war, am I supposed to now claim that Russians were trying to genocide us Fins by invading in 39? You stood in Hitler's way and then complain about being a casualty. How come Hitler didn't kill millions of us Fins? Or even Croatians? Or Estonians? Or Italians? You stood in the way because your ruling jews sold you lies of the ''motherland'' and collectivism, and you got slaughtered for it, can't really see how you're a victim there.
Law enforced history doesn't strike me as objective, I can deny the Holodomor or even say the Ukrainians are to blame for it for allowing it to happen and no one will give a shit.
I don't remember Hitler invading my country in 39, killing my countrymen and later sending the rest to gulags, I do however remember stories told to me by people who actually lived under Hitler in Germany telling me how wasn't that bad actually, meanwhile I'm yet to hear any Russian, even the most brainwashed vatnik ones, say how life in Stalin's Russia was even remotely good. Even the dumb ones who say life in USSR was better are always talking about USSR decades after Stalin.
Yes, but not the richer countries. Moreover, those richer countries went to war with Nazi Germany. The fact that you are Finnish and have the contrary opinion proves my case: you were at war with the USSR, so now Russia bad.
Show me a few of them. Also, Romania was not occupied by the Nazis. It was led by a pro-German fascist lite Ion Antonescu. Of course being occupied is worse than not being occupied. But look at Poland to figure out which was worse.
Ceausescu now has 2/3 popularity in Romania. I don't think the same is true of Antonescu.
They were smart and competent. But not even the most brilliant minds, which they certainly weren't, could make that system work. There is dispute about whether the Holodomor was intentional, but most of the communist famines were not intentional. Some of them were the result of negligence and not caring, like when the USSR was giving grain to its satellites after World War II when a million people starved.
Stalin is a Jew, that's a new one.
And yet many fought willingly to defeat Hitler and the Nazis, despite everything that the Bolsheviks had done. Clearly, they thought the Nazis were worse.
Cause you weren't on his border, and you prostituted yourself to him like you now do to NATO.
The Germans literally intentionally spread pestilence in Italy, killing tens of thousands, in retaliaton for its exit from the Axis.
Great. Then you also accept that Ceausescu wasn't that bad, same for Stalin.
Like I said, even on his own terms, he was bad, as he destroyed the country.
Wait, so when Germans say that life under Hitler wasn't that bad, it's Gospel truth, but Russians who say that life in the USSR was better are 'dumb'? Curious.