The cat most, but you can't control or expect a sentient creature to comprehend sapient rules. The biker second, because he's too close to the car in front. The car last (maybe he was going too fast..)
He doesn't make any attempt to slow down OR avoid the stopped car. Bizarre, considering he had just overtaken the car behind it.
Dude is either a distracted moron staring at a phone/satnav screen, or he has some kind undiagnosed condition, because he appears completely oblivious to what is about to happen.
I rode motorcycles for 3-4 years, over 3k miles across regularly paved roads, through cities and neighborhoods, and even attended a safety training course sponsored by the state to expedite my Learner's Permit into a full License.
That rider DID NOTHING AT ALL TO STOP. 100% entirely his fault, zero exceptions. Fat piece of shit was probably zoning out thinking about what he was about to order at Burger King.
If that were a person on the sidewalk, the driver would still have to stop and the motorcyclists would still have crashed.
FWIW I do think pet owners need to do better in keeping their pets at home or on a leash in public, but that motorcyclists clearly wasn't paying attention, and the responsibility usually falls on the vehicle in the back.
I think it’s a cat (so harder to control the roaming thereof), but yeah, in this case, the car driver did nothing wrong. Entirely the rider’s fault, lol…
The biker for sure. He's responsible for making sure he has enough distance to stop. I always thought a good bike could stop faster than a car, but his may be shit.
I agree, but I gotta say something that I had to tell one friend of mine who'd been feeling guilty for years because he did the right thing.
Hit the dog.
I'm not saying intentionally aim for it, but if you've got to make a choice between injuring a human, and killing a dog, even yourself, you have no moral imperative to spare the dog. The dog isn't even capable of understanding that you saved it, nor is it capable of gratitude, nor will it assist society in the way that a human will. Pets exist to assist humans. The human will be upset, but that's what we breed dogs for: so that the human can feel less sad. No pet is truly worth the life of a human.
If swerving could hurt you, or someone else, and stopping could hurt someone else, and going straight could hurt an animal, then don't slow down.
Yeah, I'm not saying the liability is necessarily with the driver, it's just that people don't typically seem to consider that hitting the dog that charges out into the middle of the road is sometimes the better choice.
The cat most, but you can't control or expect a sentient creature to comprehend sapient rules. The biker second, because he's too close to the car in front. The car last (maybe he was going too fast..)
He doesn't make any attempt to slow down OR avoid the stopped car. Bizarre, considering he had just overtaken the car behind it.
Dude is either a distracted moron staring at a phone/satnav screen, or he has some kind undiagnosed condition, because he appears completely oblivious to what is about to happen.
Even looks like he's holding a phone or something. It would explain the lack of breaking he was doing.
Now that I've seen the clip, and not just a pic, I do agree it's entirely the bikers fault.
It's almost like that's the problem 99.99999999% of the time or something
I rode motorcycles for 3-4 years, over 3k miles across regularly paved roads, through cities and neighborhoods, and even attended a safety training course sponsored by the state to expedite my Learner's Permit into a full License.
That rider DID NOTHING AT ALL TO STOP. 100% entirely his fault, zero exceptions. Fat piece of shit was probably zoning out thinking about what he was about to order at Burger King.
Some people are blaming the dog lol.
If that were a person on the sidewalk, the driver would still have to stop and the motorcyclists would still have crashed.
FWIW I do think pet owners need to do better in keeping their pets at home or on a leash in public, but that motorcyclists clearly wasn't paying attention, and the responsibility usually falls on the vehicle in the back.
I think it’s a cat (so harder to control the roaming thereof), but yeah, in this case, the car driver did nothing wrong. Entirely the rider’s fault, lol…
The biker for sure. He's responsible for making sure he has enough distance to stop. I always thought a good bike could stop faster than a car, but his may be shit.
I agree, but I gotta say something that I had to tell one friend of mine who'd been feeling guilty for years because he did the right thing.
Hit the dog.
I'm not saying intentionally aim for it, but if you've got to make a choice between injuring a human, and killing a dog, even yourself, you have no moral imperative to spare the dog. The dog isn't even capable of understanding that you saved it, nor is it capable of gratitude, nor will it assist society in the way that a human will. Pets exist to assist humans. The human will be upset, but that's what we breed dogs for: so that the human can feel less sad. No pet is truly worth the life of a human.
If swerving could hurt you, or someone else, and stopping could hurt someone else, and going straight could hurt an animal, then don't slow down.
I don’t think that holds in this situation. It’s not like they stopped particularly suddenly, or were going very fast…
No, in this case, fault lies entirely on the bike…
Yeah, I'm not saying the liability is necessarily with the driver, it's just that people don't typically seem to consider that hitting the dog that charges out into the middle of the road is sometimes the better choice.