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Minneapolis becomes first major American city to allow Muslim calls to prayer to be broadcast over loudspeakers five times per day, year-round - dailymail (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by xleb2 3 years ago by xleb2 +53 / -0
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– willy-willis 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Strictly speaking you don't even need to be an outright theocracy, Genoa and Venice prove that Christian republics can work for literally more than a thousand years. Not coincidentally, both Christian republics also played a huge role in anti-(Muslim)Ottoman operations throughout the Mediterranean for centuries, and a Genoese volunteer named Giovanni Giustiniani was the #2 guy among the Christian defenders during the Fall of Constantinople.

Only intra-Christian issue I can think of is that, American Christianity being historically multiconfessional rather than strictly Catholic-dominated (as was the case in Genoa & Venice both) or dominated by a specific Protestant sect, you might have more than a little trouble deducing which church should be the state one. In that regard a republic which enshrines a sort of non-denominational Christianity 'in general' as the state religion, akin to what John B. Anderson once proposed before cucking out massively, might be a better idea than the traditional 'one state, one very specific church' formula.

But in that vein, with all the woke trashfire heresies running around, it'd also be prudent to work toward an ecumenical solution in the vein of a modern Council of Nicaea (acknowledging differences but also common ground between those strains of Christianity that can still be remotely considered legitimate, while proscribing obvious heretics like Episcopalians & forming a common front against them) than refighting ye olde sectarian conflicts. If Austrians and Serbs could set aside their differences to push back against the Turks, there's no reason modern Catholics, Evangelicals, more conservative Lutherans and Presbyterians (like the ones shot up by a pooner two weeks ago) couldn't do the same against the deconstructionists & their pets, Muslims and corrupted '''''churches''''' both, when their backs are against the wall. And that point's already been here for a while.

Above all, I think this episode serves to reinforce the truth that a vacuum exists to be filled: if you remove traditional Christianity, something much worse will inevitably fill the gap. And by extension that the progressive deconstructionists are liars whose babbling about 'equity' and 'empathy' and 'healing' serves only to get people to let their guard down so they themselves can tear off the sheepskin to reveal the ravening wolves underneath, as if we needed more evidence of that.

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– MegoThor 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

For real anti-Ottoman policies, look no further than Transylvania.

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– lapalapa 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

a republic which enshrines a sort of non-denominational Christianity 'in general' as the state religion, akin to what John B. Anderson once proposed before cucking out massively, might be a better idea than the traditional 'one state, one very specific church' formula.

If your goal is to keep people united, infinitely splintering churches isn't going to get you there. For a theocracy to work it needs dogma. Dogma doesn't change, so you can't have numerous denominations doing whatever they please. You'd just get some marxist church, an LGBT church, an abortionist church, a divorce-practicing church, a polyamorous church, and then it's the same all over again.

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– willy-willis 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Hence the remarks about an American Council of Nicaea immediately below that, to hammer out what does constitute true American Christian beliefs and what deserves to be consigned to the fire. Western and Eastern Christians had pretty significant differences even back then, you know - but even they found enough common ground to build a common front which stood together for a good 700 years (325-1054) against heretics like the Arians and pagan outsiders from the Germanic tribes to Sassanid Persia alike.

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– lapalapa 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You're not going to solve religious differences with a council that adds political concerns on top.

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– willy-willis 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

History demonstrates otherwise. As I just said, Nicene/Chalcedonian religious orthodoxy was upheld for more than 700 years. For some perspective, this means it lasted for three times the lifespan of the United States as of this year.

If you're looking for some means to permanently and decisively put an end to theological arguments within Christianity forever, I can only recommend waiting for the Second Coming. But as far as actually practical long-term solutions to bridging the gap between different churches and binding them into a united front against common civilization-destroying enemies on multiple fronts go, church councils in the vein of Nicaea and Chalcedon are objectively the best possible option within man's reach and with a record to back it up.

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