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– dagthegnome 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

And how many people on the so-called right are going to be dancing around or even outright celebrating this obvious political prosecution?

The mere fact that they feel the need to do this is a the proof I need that Trump is still a threat to the regime

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– AntonioOfVenice 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

And how many people on the so-called right are going to be dancing around or even outright celebrating this obvious political prosecution?

Very few, I think, if only because they don't want to totally discredit themselves and create a free-for-all where this sort of political prosecution can be turned on someone they like.

The mere fact that they feel the need to do this is a the proof I need that Trump is still a threat to the regime

The irony is that they are the greatest threat to the regime, through their heavy-handed treatment of Trump. It exposes them for what they are: oligarchic tyrants. Trump was no threat to them (unfortunately), but they're so obsessed with completely destroying him to make an example of what happens to someone who challenges them, that they go fully mask off.

And while I agree with you that they want Trump out of the way, it is also not impossible that they do this to boost him in the primary because they think he is easier to beat. Or that there is no plan to this beyond retribution.

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– dagthegnome 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

I disagree that Trump is no threat to them: I think there's a bit of a defeatist fallacy in dissident right communities like this where we tend to think the regime is much more stable than it is. In reality, it's a house of cards, and their increasing willingness to resort to transparent authoritarianism demonstrates just how fragile their hold on power really is. Trump represents the one thing they are most afraid of: a member of the elite, too rich to be bought or bullied, who doesn't subscribe to their worldview. He terrifies them.

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– Adamrises 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

transparent authoritarianism demonstrates just how fragile their hold on power really is.

A paranoid king stabbing at random shadows still has a castle and an army. Just because they are terrified and overreacting doesn't mean their power structure is actually within reach of any of us.

Perhaps a real monster of a leader could accomplish it, but Trump is not that. He isn't half as unhinged and willing to break the rules as they paint him.

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– dagthegnome 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

He's better than nothing. The elite theorists are right about one thing: without maverick elites like Trump on our side, we have no chance at all. There has never been a successful grassroots revolution with no elite support: not once in all of recorded history.

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