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– RaceCreatesCulture 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

The war could be ended in 1 day.

  • Russia is given the Donbass area entirely.
  • The rest of Ukraine is considered neutral territory and the USA gives recommitments on ensuring its neutrality.
  • The USA tells Zalenskyy all aid is immediately cutoff and the bans any sales of its own weapons and equipment to Ukraine
  • If Ukraine doesn't accept the deal, then the USA announces sanctions on Ukraine and eases its own sanctions of Russia.

This would pretty much end the war on day 1.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

This is as realistic as you growing a second dick.

If you think you can run on a policy platform where this is your solution on how to end the war in one day, you would be laughed out of the room.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Why would you be laughed at? Ukraine has 0 chance of going anywhere with this war if the USA pulls back its support. It's basically a NATO proxy war. If the USA goes public in pulling back support, many Ukrainian soldiers and international volunteers would abandon their fighting positions because they would also see it as hopeless. Ukraine basically loses. That means, they'd be forced to accept conditions. Russia would be happy with the Donbass area and Ukraine going full neutral. Part of that could be the dismantling of Azov and the formal declaration of "Nazism" as not being tolerated in Ukraine. This actually comes from the USA because it's the CIA that has been pushing a lot of the Nazi sentiment in the Ukraine so if the USA says they're stop with their propaganda, that would be a good position.

There's nothing about this strategy that wouldn't work.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This strategy is unrealistic because almost all of the European leaders would NEVER agree to these concessions.

They view this war as an opportunity to ruin Russia. They don't want an end to the war at the cost of harming their primary objective.

One must operate in reality.

These concessions seem okay to you but it is absolutely DOA in real life.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

USA announces it will leave NATO if Europe doesn't agree.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Russia is given the Donbass area entirely.

Letting Russia expand over the Dnieper worsens the security situation of the entirety of Europe to the worst its been since the fall of the USSR.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

That matters, why?

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Because a full scale European war would trigger WW3, duh.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

If the Europeans are weak without the USA why would they start WW3?

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