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posted 3 years ago by LoneWolf5597 3 years ago by LoneWolf5597 +45 / -0
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– GhostBond 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Good post, but you've only just grazed that the fundamental reason these shows don't succeed is because women don't want to watch them.

It's not difficult to get men to watch women in shows. You simply make the character female, somewhat attractive, and have a slightly feminine attitude, and men will jump all over themselves to watch.

https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/707/688/37/stargate-stargate-sg-1-amanda-tapping-samantha-carter-wallpaper-preview.jpg

I chose this picture because the one on the left has an aburdly sexual outfit - but the one on the right is the main character that guys watched week after week after week - despite wearing what are basically men's casual military clothes. Put a woman who's somewhat attractive, a little feminine, and men will watch.

It's the female audience that you have an issue with. Women aren't interested in watching other women in fight/combat/action roles.

And if you try to push the show mostly to men, then feminists show up and absolutely destroy your female characters. If she's sexy they attack that. If she talks a lot they'll attack anything her character says they don't agree with which is basically everything. If she doesn't talk they'll complain about that as well.

And importantly - if the female superhero engages in the same violence that the male superheros do - they'll have an absolute fit. This is why it's impossible to write a female superhero that men will watch even if she is attractive.

Imagine the fit feminists would have if in this scene loki was a woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ZjnrHR8EA&t=41s

Take the elevator fight scene in captain america "So 15 men attack and try to dogpile on our female hero?".

The problem is always that the moment you add women to a movie, you're opening yourself up to every single thing the female character does being critisized and bemoaned, and 50%-90% of the things a male character would do being off limits even to reasonable people.

The only reason why buffy the vampire slayer exists is because feminist were not around to fuck that up.
And they still went after joss later so look how that goes for films that include women in them.

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– Smith1980 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Very well said. Also with something like James Bond they don’t get the tried and true formula where men want to be him and women want to be with him. Watching Bond take on bad guys and bed sexy women has an appeal factor for both. Or look at the show Remington Steele

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