I agree, but you know as well as I do that this will not happen…
No court in Current Year will prosecute that. They know that a literal mob can just be called up in response…
Which is to say, should this happen (giving their money back)..? Absolutely yes.
Will it happen? I very, very much doubt it.
I’ve dealt with enough university administration parasites in my own place to know that they do not readily give things back, including and especially money…
Because in general, again from experience, when someone in a position of relative “power” knows that they don’t have to do something, they simply won’t do it, until and unless they are made to…
From experience, again, no, these people don’t care about “morals”. “Morals are relative”, after all!
They care about money, and securing their own position/reputation/tenure.
This doesn’t necessarily go for, say, tutors, but pretty much every lecturer I’ve met has been like that, and the Admin staff/deans/degree coordinators are some of the worst people I have had to work under…
I’m really very jaded about this shit.
One thing I will say, though: we like to blame the academics themselves, here, but I feel that we tend to underestimate the massive power and influence that career admin staff have…
They ruined my life (long story). I’m not entirely sure I will ever fully recover from that. And every time I have dealt with one since, they’ve behaved with the same utter arrogance and sheer contempt…
Two Unis (three, if we’re including work). Three states. Like, 5 campuses. Three/Four cities…
Again, that's reflective of how this managerial coup tends to work.
The face of the organisation is the very last thing to get replaced. By the time the face is showing cracks the entire rest of the organisation has been lost to corruption already.
I would make the same demand. If you don't want me, then you don't want my money.
I agree, but you know as well as I do that this will not happen…
No court in Current Year will prosecute that. They know that a literal mob can just be called up in response…
Which is to say, should this happen (giving their money back)..? Absolutely yes.
Will it happen? I very, very much doubt it.
I’ve dealt with enough university administration parasites in my own place to know that they do not readily give things back, including and especially money…
Because in general, again from experience, when someone in a position of relative “power” knows that they don’t have to do something, they simply won’t do it, until and unless they are made to…
That’s my 20c, anyway.
Agreed. Unless there's legal documents stating that the funds are contingent upon the name, all you've got is a moral case.
I cannot picture university staff being concerned with any kind of moral case, given the environment they have created to work in.
From experience, again, no, these people don’t care about “morals”. “Morals are relative”, after all!
They care about money, and securing their own position/reputation/tenure.
This doesn’t necessarily go for, say, tutors, but pretty much every lecturer I’ve met has been like that, and the Admin staff/deans/degree coordinators are some of the worst people I have had to work under…
I’m really very jaded about this shit.
One thing I will say, though: we like to blame the academics themselves, here, but I feel that we tend to underestimate the massive power and influence that career admin staff have…
They ruined my life (long story). I’m not entirely sure I will ever fully recover from that. And every time I have dealt with one since, they’ve behaved with the same utter arrogance and sheer contempt…
Two Unis (three, if we’re including work). Three states. Like, 5 campuses. Three/Four cities…
Same shit.
Again, that's reflective of how this managerial coup tends to work.
The face of the organisation is the very last thing to get replaced. By the time the face is showing cracks the entire rest of the organisation has been lost to corruption already.