This is a fundamental problem with the concept of "white" because it's an Americanized re-classification of what would simply be Anglo-Saxon. But because the American colonies weren't simply Anglo-Saxon, this term didn't make sense, and there was fear of German colonization by former Hessians, and later French revolutionary ideas, as well as an opposition to English Liberalism which was so weak willed it really didn't make a fuss about Parliament's abuses to American colonists. So, in the end, the weird concept of "white" was created.
If we simply use the concept of european as a stand-in for white, it's obvious that the Irish are white. Many Americans seemed to accept this idea that the Irish were, at most, a kind of lesser white race of degenerates, but no one really said they were "not white". That only emerged with Socialists claiming that the Irish weren't white, because they basically weren't Anglo-Saxon, which was the stand-in they were making.
Fundamentally, the problem here is that the American concept of race is a very broad abstract category of people that don't even share nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, values, culture, or even geographical continuity. But Progressive racial doctrine of the 20th century, desperately claimed that there had to be. So, we get this bastardized standard.
I don't even blame some racialists on 4chan claiming Americans are too much of an admixture to even qualify as white anymore. Certainly American blacks can't really be classified as "African" at this point on a purely genetic standpoint. Fundamentally, the "white" abstraction, in it's American conceptualization is too Ameri-centric to actually be universalized into something usable.
It's up to European nationalists if they want to embrace pan-Europeanism or not. In America, the European ancestries are very mixed so "white" makes plenty of sense, generally speaking.
This is a fundamental problem with the concept of "white" because it's an Americanized re-classification of what would simply be Anglo-Saxon. But because the American colonies weren't simply Anglo-Saxon, this term didn't make sense, and there was fear of German colonization by former Hessians, and later French revolutionary ideas, as well as an opposition to English Liberalism which was so weak willed it really didn't make a fuss about Parliament's abuses to American colonists. So, in the end, the weird concept of "white" was created.
If we simply use the concept of european as a stand-in for white, it's obvious that the Irish are white. Many Americans seemed to accept this idea that the Irish were, at most, a kind of lesser white race of degenerates, but no one really said they were "not white". That only emerged with Socialists claiming that the Irish weren't white, because they basically weren't Anglo-Saxon, which was the stand-in they were making.
Fundamentally, the problem here is that the American concept of race is a very broad abstract category of people that don't even share nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, values, culture, or even geographical continuity. But Progressive racial doctrine of the 20th century, desperately claimed that there had to be. So, we get this bastardized standard.
I don't even blame some racialists on 4chan claiming Americans are too much of an admixture to even qualify as white anymore. Certainly American blacks can't really be classified as "African" at this point on a purely genetic standpoint. Fundamentally, the "white" abstraction, in it's American conceptualization is too Ameri-centric to actually be universalized into something usable.
It's up to European nationalists if they want to embrace pan-Europeanism or not. In America, the European ancestries are very mixed so "white" makes plenty of sense, generally speaking.