It's an obvious enough concept that I didn't get it from him, just like I didn't get gravity from Newton.
Of course you did. Otherwise, you would be a genius of Newton's stature to figure it out on your own.
Literally every country does this. "omg they have a military, HOW DARE THEY".
And as you know very well, mass armament and mobilization is often regarded as rather threatening by neighbors. Particularly when you are assaulting the Donbas and have every intention of occupying the Crimea.
You mean "the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine"? I don't think they were "attacking" anyway, even though it was their own country. The front lines there were just sitting stalemated for years and years.
Yeah, the regions who don't want to go along with the coup against the president they elected. Problem?
lol no. that didn't happen. maybe you have a tweet from some rando? maybe?
What Ukraine DID have was shitloads of nukes which they voluntarily gave up for false promises of security. Big regrets there. Ukraine should have kept its nukes. Then they never would have been invaded.
As John Mearsheimer said at the time.
lol that's not a justification for war. Countries can say whatever they want.
You claimed Ukraine was minding its own business. Clearly not. I'd be rather cross if my neighbor was trying to sabotage me as well.
Sounds like the Wagner group is going to run out of Russia's entire prison population well before they even manage to take Bakhmut.
No. I actually have throughout my life refused to read philosophers or "thinkers" because I want to think for myself and not copy the ideas of others. I've never read Adam Smith, therefore I could never take anything from him. Even on shit that comes up a lot, like "The Prince", I never read them directly, I only read the condensed version bullet points from other sources.
I understand the concepts better than those "geniuses" did because they're hundreds of years old and my knowledge is more pure and recent. Borrowing conclusions and thought from others is commonplace and leads to errors. It's like taking the vaccine and getting hit with the antigenic original sin. I spent my youth reading. I spent my adult life gathering primary data from living and witnessing with my own eyes. I also regularly research data, but I don't give the slightest shit about someone else's opinion, because I don't know if I can trust their process.
And as you know very well, mass armament and mobilization is often regarded as rather threatening by neighbors.
Ukraine didn't mobilize until after it was invaded, unfortunately, because that idiot Zelensky didn't want to "cause a panic".
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"According to him, if these consultations do not happen again or their results do not guarantee security for our country, Ukraine “will have every right to believe that the Budapest Memorandum is not working and all the package decisions of 1994 are in doubt.”" 100% fair and correct. But it doesn't mean Ukraine would even try to get nukes. He doesn't even mention nukes.
Mearsheimer
is a clown living in the 1800s. I've debunked his nonsense before.
No. I actually have throughout my life refused to read philosophers or "thinkers" because I want to think for myself and not copy the ideas of others. I've never read Adam Smith, therefore I could never take anything from him. Even on shit that comes up a lot, like "The Prince", I never read them directly, I only read the condensed version bullet points from other sources.
Not reading them directly does not mean that you are not influenced by them, or that you did not get your ideas from them. It is laudable to think for yourself, but you did get your idea of gravity from Newton. You and I put together are not smart enough to come up with gravity.
I understand the concepts better than those "geniuses" did because they're hundreds of years old and my knowledge is more pure and recent.
You have solely arrogance in spades in thinking that you are better than actual geniuses in the past.
I spent my adult life gathering primary data from living and witnessing with my own eyes. I also regularly research data, but I don't give the slightest shit about someone else's opinion, because I don't know if I can trust their process.
Well, I can't disagree with that, and I do like that you don't care the slightest bit about what most people think.
Ukraine didn't mobilize until after it was invaded, unfortunately, because that idiot Zelensky didn't want to "cause a panic".
A mobilization would have been a casus belli. Most people thought the US was simply trying to incresae tensions, which to be fair, it probably was.
"According to him, if these consultations do not happen again or their results do not guarantee security for our country, Ukraine “will have every right to believe that the Budapest Memorandum is not working and all the package decisions of 1994 are in doubt.”" 100% fair and correct. But it doesn't mean Ukraine would even try to get nukes. He doesn't even mention nukes.
What do you think the Budapest Memorandum said?
is a clown living in the 1800s. I've debunked his nonsense before.
Human nature has not changed since. And if there's any refutation of your claims about Mearsheimer, it's that he got the issue of the corrupt puppet non-country giving up its nuke 100% right.
You and I put together are not smart enough to come up with gravity.
Bro literally anyone can see shit falls down. Newton did not invent that, although stupid normies assume he did with that stupid apple story that didn't really happen.
What Newton actually did was invent a lot of complex math equations, Newtownian Physics, which explain how gravity works on a large mathematical scale. Neither you or I know those equations.
You have solely arrogance in spades in thinking that you are better than actual geniuses in the past.
No, it's common sense. Maybe they'd be smarter if they were born and living in today's world, but they weren't. I have the benefit of hundreds of even thousands of years of data of human history they lacked. I know better now than they did then. That's not arrogance, it's simple fact.
A mobilization would have been a casus belli.
The concept of casus belli is irrelevant here. The only point of a "casus belli" is if your reason for war provokes a "seems legit, I'll stay out of it" reaction from other powers, instead of a "get fucked bro, I'm helping your enemy". The West was going to help Ukraine in almost any case short of Zelensky getting tricked into attacking Russia 1st like that dumbass in Georgia did, and probably would have still went all in to help him even then.
Russia would not have attacked until it was ready. It wasn't ready until late Feb. Zelensky was told in what, September or October 2021 that Russia was 100% going to invade, and the US intelligence even had a reasonably accurate invasion plan. Had Zelensky been a good leader, he would have publicly announced that intelligence had confirmed Russia's invasion plan, and ordered immediate war footing, with a partial mobilization & full blown fortification efforts. That's what I would have done. Putin could have thrown a hissy fit but he wouldn't have invaded early without units being in place & at strength. By the time he was ready, every avenue of approach would have a half dozen trench lines & defense in depth with dug in artillery and SPAA support. Every Russian thrust would have broken like the 1st Guards Tank Army broke against Kharkiv in the actual attack. Russia would have taken essentially no territory (Crimea is incredibly easy to bottleneck, Ukraine simply didn't defend the border at all) and been totally humiliated and forced to call the whole thing off after a couple weeks.
What do you think the Budapest Memorandum said?
"Gib nukes and we pwommise to not attack." Zelensky couldn't just take the nukes back 30 years later, could he? So how is Ukraine going to get nukes? By suddenly making its own nuke program like Iran out of nowhere? And Iran has been trying to get nukes for decades and not gotten them yet. And Zelensky didn't even say "I will order a crash program to make nukes", Ukraine is too poor to even try, and if it did, Russia would just bomb the facilities since it's not like Ukraine can dig out underground mountain bunkers like Iran. nobody thinks Ukraine could even try to get nukes if it wanted to, and it never said it wanted to.
Bro literally anyone can see shit falls down. Newton did not invent that, although stupid normies assume he did with that stupid apple story that didn't really happen.
Newton established that the laws governing the motion of the heavenly bodies are the same that apply on the earth. No kidding everyone was able to see that things fall down. Aristotle, smarter than both of us put together, thought it was because rocks are earthly things that are naturally attracted by the earth, while fire is a heavenly thing that is attracted by the heavenly being (or something like that).
Gravity is not things falling down, and it is by no means obvious. Because I hope you're not arrogant enough to think that you are smarter than Newton.
Neither you or I know those equations.
Correct.
Maybe they'd be smarter if they were born and living in today's world, but they weren't. I have the benefit of hundreds of even thousands of years of data of human history they lacked.
Data does not make you smart though. That is knowledge. You may have more knowledge, but St. Thomas Aquinas was definitely smarter.
The West was going to help Ukraine in almost any case short of Zelensky getting tricked into attacking Russia 1st like that dumbass in Georgia did
LOL. I am surprised that you know about that. Because in all honesty, I thought that the Georgian war was aggression on Russia's part until two years ago or so. Why?
Cause you have to be a retard to be Georgia and attack Russia. No one can be that stupid, I thought.
It wasn't ready until late Feb. Zelensky was told in what, September or October 2021 that Russia was 100% going to invade, and the US intelligence even had a reasonably accurate invasion plan.
To be fair, US 'intelligence' is anything but.
In retrospect, it seems inevitable. But at the time, I didn't believe it either.
That's what I would have done. Putin could have thrown a hissy fit but he wouldn't have invaded early without units being in place & at strength. By the time he was ready, every avenue of approach would have a half dozen trench lines & defense in depth with dug in artillery and SPAA support. Every Russian thrust would have broken like the 1st Guards Tank Army broke against Kharkiv in the actual attack. Russia would have taken essentially no territory (Crimea is incredibly easy to bottleneck, Ukraine simply didn't defend the border at all) and been totally humiliated and forced to call the whole thing off after a couple weeks.
Eh, while you take it way too far, you do make a good case for it. I'm just paranoid about mobilization given what happened in 1914.
So how is Ukraine going to get nukes? By suddenly making its own nuke program like Iran out of nowhere? And Iran has been trying to get nukes for decades and not gotten them yet.
According to your 'intelligence' agencies, it does not want nukes.
But fair enough. However, I do think that saying that you want nukes is a casus belli.
Of course you did. Otherwise, you would be a genius of Newton's stature to figure it out on your own.
And as you know very well, mass armament and mobilization is often regarded as rather threatening by neighbors. Particularly when you are assaulting the Donbas and have every intention of occupying the Crimea.
Yeah, the regions who don't want to go along with the coup against the president they elected. Problem?
This didn't happen: https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/ukrayina-iniciyuye-provedennya-konsultacij-u-mezhah-budapesh-73001
As John Mearsheimer said at the time.
You claimed Ukraine was minding its own business. Clearly not. I'd be rather cross if my neighbor was trying to sabotage me as well.
Sounds like a win-win.
No. I actually have throughout my life refused to read philosophers or "thinkers" because I want to think for myself and not copy the ideas of others. I've never read Adam Smith, therefore I could never take anything from him. Even on shit that comes up a lot, like "The Prince", I never read them directly, I only read the condensed version bullet points from other sources.
I understand the concepts better than those "geniuses" did because they're hundreds of years old and my knowledge is more pure and recent. Borrowing conclusions and thought from others is commonplace and leads to errors. It's like taking the vaccine and getting hit with the antigenic original sin. I spent my youth reading. I spent my adult life gathering primary data from living and witnessing with my own eyes. I also regularly research data, but I don't give the slightest shit about someone else's opinion, because I don't know if I can trust their process.
Ukraine didn't mobilize until after it was invaded, unfortunately, because that idiot Zelensky didn't want to "cause a panic".
"According to him, if these consultations do not happen again or their results do not guarantee security for our country, Ukraine “will have every right to believe that the Budapest Memorandum is not working and all the package decisions of 1994 are in doubt.”" 100% fair and correct. But it doesn't mean Ukraine would even try to get nukes. He doesn't even mention nukes.
is a clown living in the 1800s. I've debunked his nonsense before.
Not reading them directly does not mean that you are not influenced by them, or that you did not get your ideas from them. It is laudable to think for yourself, but you did get your idea of gravity from Newton. You and I put together are not smart enough to come up with gravity.
You have solely arrogance in spades in thinking that you are better than actual geniuses in the past.
Well, I can't disagree with that, and I do like that you don't care the slightest bit about what most people think.
A mobilization would have been a casus belli. Most people thought the US was simply trying to incresae tensions, which to be fair, it probably was.
What do you think the Budapest Memorandum said?
Human nature has not changed since. And if there's any refutation of your claims about Mearsheimer, it's that he got the issue of the corrupt puppet non-country giving up its nuke 100% right.
Bro literally anyone can see shit falls down. Newton did not invent that, although stupid normies assume he did with that stupid apple story that didn't really happen.
What Newton actually did was invent a lot of complex math equations, Newtownian Physics, which explain how gravity works on a large mathematical scale. Neither you or I know those equations.
No, it's common sense. Maybe they'd be smarter if they were born and living in today's world, but they weren't. I have the benefit of hundreds of even thousands of years of data of human history they lacked. I know better now than they did then. That's not arrogance, it's simple fact.
The concept of casus belli is irrelevant here. The only point of a "casus belli" is if your reason for war provokes a "seems legit, I'll stay out of it" reaction from other powers, instead of a "get fucked bro, I'm helping your enemy". The West was going to help Ukraine in almost any case short of Zelensky getting tricked into attacking Russia 1st like that dumbass in Georgia did, and probably would have still went all in to help him even then.
Russia would not have attacked until it was ready. It wasn't ready until late Feb. Zelensky was told in what, September or October 2021 that Russia was 100% going to invade, and the US intelligence even had a reasonably accurate invasion plan. Had Zelensky been a good leader, he would have publicly announced that intelligence had confirmed Russia's invasion plan, and ordered immediate war footing, with a partial mobilization & full blown fortification efforts. That's what I would have done. Putin could have thrown a hissy fit but he wouldn't have invaded early without units being in place & at strength. By the time he was ready, every avenue of approach would have a half dozen trench lines & defense in depth with dug in artillery and SPAA support. Every Russian thrust would have broken like the 1st Guards Tank Army broke against Kharkiv in the actual attack. Russia would have taken essentially no territory (Crimea is incredibly easy to bottleneck, Ukraine simply didn't defend the border at all) and been totally humiliated and forced to call the whole thing off after a couple weeks.
"Gib nukes and we pwommise to not attack." Zelensky couldn't just take the nukes back 30 years later, could he? So how is Ukraine going to get nukes? By suddenly making its own nuke program like Iran out of nowhere? And Iran has been trying to get nukes for decades and not gotten them yet. And Zelensky didn't even say "I will order a crash program to make nukes", Ukraine is too poor to even try, and if it did, Russia would just bomb the facilities since it's not like Ukraine can dig out underground mountain bunkers like Iran. nobody thinks Ukraine could even try to get nukes if it wanted to, and it never said it wanted to.
Newton established that the laws governing the motion of the heavenly bodies are the same that apply on the earth. No kidding everyone was able to see that things fall down. Aristotle, smarter than both of us put together, thought it was because rocks are earthly things that are naturally attracted by the earth, while fire is a heavenly thing that is attracted by the heavenly being (or something like that).
Gravity is not things falling down, and it is by no means obvious. Because I hope you're not arrogant enough to think that you are smarter than Newton.
Correct.
Data does not make you smart though. That is knowledge. You may have more knowledge, but St. Thomas Aquinas was definitely smarter.
LOL. I am surprised that you know about that. Because in all honesty, I thought that the Georgian war was aggression on Russia's part until two years ago or so. Why?
Cause you have to be a retard to be Georgia and attack Russia. No one can be that stupid, I thought.
To be fair, US 'intelligence' is anything but.
In retrospect, it seems inevitable. But at the time, I didn't believe it either.
Eh, while you take it way too far, you do make a good case for it. I'm just paranoid about mobilization given what happened in 1914.
According to your 'intelligence' agencies, it does not want nukes.
But fair enough. However, I do think that saying that you want nukes is a casus belli.