Steven Crowder responds to Daily Wire: It was never about the money
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Trust but verify, especially after all the publicized incidents of conservative grifters and lapses in judgement. And as you said, anyone that gets personally offended over recording legal business negotiations would make a very stupid and undependable business partner. Granted Daily Wire is being coldly methodological, as opposed to drama vortexes like Milo.
The damning part was that there was resistance on DW's side to the Crowders suggestion that the contract was out-of-touch and excessive with the brand and likeness in perpituity, and that up-and-coming talent should mentored. Reminds me of Steve Job's demeanor towards John Carmack. There wasn't a strong, explicit acknowledgement that the initial proposed contract was intended as a template instead of suggestion of leverage. Shapiro explained going into business with Boreing because some dinosaurs (probably Koch Brothers or Murdoch) were clueless regarding online mediums and younger audiences. DW isn't as stodgy and disconnected as legacy companies, but it's a shame they have the same top-down attitude that I presume was part of Shapiro's criticism.
In business it's okay to have a rider, like Van Halen's brown M&M clause, to make sure the other party is experienced and attentive to the venture. A shady example I've heard about personally is a independent owned establishment getting a contract from a management company that has the MC's revenue or profit share claimed before taxes, which wouldn't require MC to actually make net profit for the owners. Said management company (Destination Hotels, 5+ years ago) was being underhanded and subtle (hospitality is by and large a grimey, uninspired industry), while these indie networks are just strong-arming the desperate and impulsive.
I would lump Candace Owens reaction as a drama vortex. She seamed unhinged and went very personal very quickly which is funny considering Steven started this off without naming anyone. And even after the attacks he has said nice things about Klaven, Peterson, and Shapiro. Doesn’t matter that people speculated it was them it could just as well had been fox, tpusa, oan, newsmax, etc.
And their resistance appears to be what crowder has a problem with. Sure with unknown talent there are risks. But crowder really isn’t an unknown. They were willing to put up 50 mil over 4 years for him and he had a subscriber base a third of the size of their whole network. And they are worried about being demonetized on YouTube despite the ad reads and subs being like 95% of the income. And that would go for the younger talent Crowder was voicing concern over getting that same crap deal.
And Rekeita has pointed out on his live stream that sure you give an offer lower than what you expect to agree to when negotiating but you don’t go so low you insult the person you are offering it to. That kills any chance of them doing business together and kind of makes you wonder if it was even a serious offer in the first place.
We all knew about Candace since before KIA2 was active, but a normie coming across one of her clips shared on Facebook doesn't stand a chance. For clarity, I referring to Shapiro and Boreing (and any private investors I'm unaware of) when I said Daily Wire, not any of their other hosts or writers.
Daily Wire the business became suspect when Ben had blinders regarding the military industrial complex, promoted the vaccine (so I've heard, haven't listened for more than 4 minutes since May 2020), and provided risk-averse coverage of the presidential election and Jan 6; this recent event is just dramatic evidence. Similarly, every everyday Joe should have been outraged about potential govt. surveillance abuse before Assange and Snowden were breaking news, before the Patriot Act was a possibility.
I've never like Candace. I wasn't sure she was a grifter like everyone else says but instead personally dislike her. She huffs her own farts.
I've barely listened to Ben since 2019 but yes he was pushing the vaccine up until tech stopped banning questioning it which is a good example of the DW bending knee.
Walsh is the only one I've watched and I know he's constantly skirting the edge on social media and YouTube as to what he can say. I'm pretty sure he's only holding back because of the contract. He was also one who didn't mention the drama except to make a joke about a rivalry with Candace Owens
My personal write-off for her was listening to her Sunday interview with Shapiro where she critiqued Shapiro's constitutionally based disdain for presidential pomp and circumstance. The premise itself was interesting, that casuals and normies don't relate to formalism and intrinsic virtue, but her tone and conclusion that such people should be catered to was fundamentally leftist in attitude and rationale.
Note: I'm reverse-steelmanning her as my description makes her argument appear more profound than it really was.
I have no problem with Klaven and Walsh. Knowles I've barely listened to. When Shapiro is off, it's in the manner of legacy media and a liability to heterodox movements.
Tthe contract was out-of-touch and excessive with the brand and likeness in perpituity."
How is it that people keep parroting this trope? There was NOTHING that said DW retains the brand and likeness in perpetuity. Boreing very clearly said that they owned all his content DURING the contract period, but after the contract ended, everything that Crowder owned BEFORE the contract and everything Crowder produced himself during the contract, would go back to Crowder. The ONLY thing kept in perpetuity was anything that DW produced during the contract period. That's it.
Additionally.... That's perpetual rights to Louder With Crowder, but IANAL. Elsewhere in the thread, you're regurgitating superficial fanboy arguments like 'hur-dur, Kapernick' so do the needful and expunge 'parroting' from your vocabulary.
Crowder also brought it up in the phone call, regarding up-and-coming talent; Boreing's hesitant, standoffish response was telling.
"Crowder also brought it up in the phone call..."
You mean the phone call that he knew he was recording and that he knew he'd play for the public? Are you telling me you're so gullible that you'd believe anything he said on that call that he knew he'd play for the public? What up-and-coming talent? That's the biggest virtue-signal I've probably ever heard and that includes virtue-signaling Liberals. Crowder doesn't give a rat's ass about up-and-coming talent.
And your YouTube link shows Crowder explaining that DW retains Crowder's content DURING the contract period. Christ Almighty, how can you people keep repeating the same nonsensical falsehood that they retain all his content in perpetuity AFTER the contract period? Look at 'b", under "Additional Rights", when Crowder shows it on the screen (the exact time stamp that you linked). It says "DURING THE TERM."
And the Kaepernick argument wasn't superficial. It was about as damning as you could possibly get. Simply dismissing it as superficial is a classic Liberal tactic. But seeing as so many Crowder fanboys are actually closet Socialists, that now favor workers over the people that build companies, it's apropos.
That's the email-list you turd. Go one section down, where it says "additionally, [blank] will have perpetual and exclusive rights...". You're so willfully illiterate that you've apparently never came across the 'IANAL' acronym, instead clinging to a factionalist train-of-thought. And, the fucking irony of using a leftist (or tradcuck boomer) social construct in the same sentence of accusing of others of being commies.
Go find an aspie to detail how Crowder's situation isn't comparable to Kapernick's.