Pretty much, I do agree with the angle of Jordan Peterson of 'cleaning your room' , ensuring that you are organised and clear of mind at home and of staying fit and healthy but unless you can stop feminism encouraging onlyfans as a quick way to make money, not take responsibility and engaging frequently in hedonistic activity, the whole porn debate is null.
This is a phrase Sargon heard that explains the mentality and problem currently facing men today:
She was never yours, it's just your turn
That is the most depressing shit I've ever heard in my life. Unless you can stamp out that mentality, there's no point trying to cut off the symptom of porn, it's probably keeping men safe than deal with these nihilistic women.
The "cleaning your room" style self development is useful for bettering yourself as an individual but it will not fix the real problem.
Our gynocentric societal structures enable and actively promote the worst hypergamy behaviors in women and they have completely eroded all benefits of marriage for men.
No amount of cleaning your room can transform a disloyal demonic whore into an loyal angel.
If forced to choose between the harmful effects of masterbating to porn and the harmful consequences of dating modern western women, masterbating to porn sadly seems like the lesser evil.
Exactly my point, all the self improvement are the best we can offer at the moment to ensure men don't waste away but for relationships, everything is null with the mentality of a lot of women.
Unless you're lucky to have a deeply religious girl to date, you'd need some kind of 'soul contract' where they can't disobey and be disloyal but that's in fantasy books only so I'm predicting a huge unrest when they all turn 35-40 and realise they wasted their lives with no family while any guy that self improved themselves but stayed out of dating even at 40-50 can pick up a 20-25 year old.
Yes, the guy that self improved can pick up a 20-25 year old woman later in his life but with how society is structured, that 20-25 year old woman still has no incentives to be loyal to him in a long term relationship.
The sad reality is that large groups of men and women alike will both ultimately end up very unhappy.
You correctly theorized that a lot of women will end up unhappy but the truth is men likely won't escape that fate either.
I honestly don't see a happy ending for the majority of men today regardless of what choice they make with regards to women.
Men who remain alone involuntarily throughout life will always feel extremely bitter about it. This is the group that is called incels.
Men who remain alone voluntarily can enjoy their career and hobbies but they will always still be sad that they will have never have a wholesome companionship that is depicted in fiction but doesn't exist anymore in reality. I myself am in this category. I have experienced too much of what modern western women are and have made my choice to be in this category. Still I know that on some level I still yearn for a wholesome and loving relationship with a hypothetical good woman that I won't ever find in reality.
Men who get married early and then likely get burned in a divorce will suffer financially and emotionally and those scars will remain permanently.
Men who get married late and then get likely get burned in a divorce will also suffer financially and emotionally and those scars will remain permanently.
Men who get married and stay married in a loveless marriage for the sake of the kids will also suffer great psychological damage.
With how society is incentivizing the worst behaviors in women, how can a man get married and stay married in a happy marriage? Doesn't seem possible to me.
The current horrendous state of sexual dynamics ensures misery for pretty much everyone.
No joke, daddy issues is a real thing and I have noticed younger women be more submissive to older men. Does not apply to the majority but a very significant amount of women.
It's why Islam is one step ahead of the West culturally, they immediately stamp out these hedonistic attempts and make women more dependent on men. If we still had a nuclear family then none of this would be a problem.
But by removing two of the great anchors of a nuclear family (connection to older generation with grandparents and a strong connected ideological belief usually religion), things aren't that rosy for men. There are going to be a few needles here and there that are women that love being married, having a family and being a doting wife and mother but the haystack is the size of a mega city right now and we haven't got magnets to easily find them.
Pretty much, I do agree with the angle of Jordan Peterson of 'cleaning your room' , ensuring that you are organised and clear of mind at home and of staying fit and healthy but unless you can stop feminism encouraging onlyfans as a quick way to make money, not take responsibility and engaging frequently in hedonistic activity, the whole porn debate is null.
This is a phrase Sargon heard that explains the mentality and problem currently facing men today:
She was never yours, it's just your turn
That is the most depressing shit I've ever heard in my life. Unless you can stamp out that mentality, there's no point trying to cut off the symptom of porn, it's probably keeping men safe than deal with these nihilistic women.
The "cleaning your room" style self development is useful for bettering yourself as an individual but it will not fix the real problem.
Our gynocentric societal structures enable and actively promote the worst hypergamy behaviors in women and they have completely eroded all benefits of marriage for men.
No amount of cleaning your room can transform a disloyal demonic whore into an loyal angel.
If forced to choose between the harmful effects of masterbating to porn and the harmful consequences of dating modern western women, masterbating to porn sadly seems like the lesser evil.
Exactly my point, all the self improvement are the best we can offer at the moment to ensure men don't waste away but for relationships, everything is null with the mentality of a lot of women.
Unless you're lucky to have a deeply religious girl to date, you'd need some kind of 'soul contract' where they can't disobey and be disloyal but that's in fantasy books only so I'm predicting a huge unrest when they all turn 35-40 and realise they wasted their lives with no family while any guy that self improved themselves but stayed out of dating even at 40-50 can pick up a 20-25 year old.
Yes, the guy that self improved can pick up a 20-25 year old woman later in his life but with how society is structured, that 20-25 year old woman still has no incentives to be loyal to him in a long term relationship.
The sad reality is that large groups of men and women alike will both ultimately end up very unhappy.
You correctly theorized that a lot of women will end up unhappy but the truth is men likely won't escape that fate either.
I honestly don't see a happy ending for the majority of men today regardless of what choice they make with regards to women.
Men who remain alone involuntarily throughout life will always feel extremely bitter about it. This is the group that is called incels.
Men who remain alone voluntarily can enjoy their career and hobbies but they will always still be sad that they will have never have a wholesome companionship that is depicted in fiction but doesn't exist anymore in reality. I myself am in this category. I have experienced too much of what modern western women are and have made my choice to be in this category. Still I know that on some level I still yearn for a wholesome and loving relationship with a hypothetical good woman that I won't ever find in reality.
Men who get married early and then likely get burned in a divorce will suffer financially and emotionally and those scars will remain permanently.
Men who get married late and then get likely get burned in a divorce will also suffer financially and emotionally and those scars will remain permanently.
Men who get married and stay married in a loveless marriage for the sake of the kids will also suffer great psychological damage.
With how society is incentivizing the worst behaviors in women, how can a man get married and stay married in a happy marriage? Doesn't seem possible to me.
The current horrendous state of sexual dynamics ensures misery for pretty much everyone.
No joke, daddy issues is a real thing and I have noticed younger women be more submissive to older men. Does not apply to the majority but a very significant amount of women.
It's why Islam is one step ahead of the West culturally, they immediately stamp out these hedonistic attempts and make women more dependent on men. If we still had a nuclear family then none of this would be a problem.
But by removing two of the great anchors of a nuclear family (connection to older generation with grandparents and a strong connected ideological belief usually religion), things aren't that rosy for men. There are going to be a few needles here and there that are women that love being married, having a family and being a doting wife and mother but the haystack is the size of a mega city right now and we haven't got magnets to easily find them.