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Time's person of the year is Zelensky. (mobile.twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 3 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +34 / -0
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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Who was also democratically deposed (by parliamentary vote), which happened only after he quietly and suddenly stole (more) money and fled straight to Moscow without telling even his supporters and stopping anywhere (he just simply vanished until he resurfaced in Moscow, never to return ever since to this day for even a minute, he's only in Moscow just all the time), and then a new president was speedily elected after weeks of interim parliamentary rule.

Ukraine was a country not listening to America (for their own peril) and not being even really supported by America until 2022 (and especially not until Trump, as Obama had refused to send them any weapons at all and mostly just did weak sanctions that Russians laughed about), which was despite American guarantees of security for them having given up their gigantic (much larger than the Chinese even now) nuclear arsenal of missiles and bombers which were all either destroyed or transfered to Russia in the deal that was orchestrated by America and in large part also financed by America. The American led strategic disarmament of Ukraine began in 1994 and was finished in 2002.

The American lead negotiator now looking back at it: https://afsa.org/should-ukraine-have-kept-nuclear-weapons

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– SoctaticMethod1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

What is being ignored is the 'escalation ladder' in this event, which the left especially loves to skip to the end.

Usually you try to keep conflict down to a certain level, knowing that if you raise the bar, you reduce the possibility of a peaceful solution and increase the risk of death and destruction. Despite how he said it, Trump's actions showed he understood this and that's why we had no more wars under him.

Obama AND Biden, they escalated all the fucking time especially during the Arab spring which most failed or resulted in an hardline religious order taking over, all because they thought by using social media and the public, they could get the Middle East on their ideology.

It failed horrifically, whereas Trump came in, said "Let's make some money" and you had arab countries signing deals with Israel. Point is Obama and Biden tried escalating the situation always to get their way and its ALWAYS fucked up. Like Ukraine currently as no matter what, they are a broken country when this is over.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well, Biden's been obsessed with ending America's sandbox wars at any and all cost, which he did in Afghanistan in a super crude and just fucking cold blooded way. (Trump couldn't do it like that, just pack up and leave one night without even telling Afghan allies.) In Syria he's leaving the SDF (who have once conquered the capital of the very same "hardline religious order" when working with Trump) to be slaughtered by Turkish drones because he doesn't give a fuck about them and so ironically their only hope is with Russia now, and I don't think the American public cares, nor even knows about it at all. I think it's kinda tragic actually, despite them being a sort of anarcho-communists (of a nationalist kind, with tribal allies).

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– SoctaticMethod1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

All of which indicates that the US's words are worth shit, their promises is as empty as their rhetoric and their threats are puny.

If Russia actually helps stabilise Syria by getting a deal done between fractions then their standing goes up. Biden isn't focused on 'ending sandbox wars', it's because they found a better way to launder money through Ukraine than the Middle East, only reason they changed. By the end of his term, the US will be mostly a joke because of leadership so we can only hope China's decline pushes a Taiwan invasion attempt off the table.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Other American officials care more.

https://www.axios.com/2022/12/07/cia-warned-turkey-strikes-syria-kurds-us-troops

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