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Baited Ron Coleman “Conservative” Orthodox Jewish Lawyer (media.communities.win)

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– Gizortnik 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yeah, but they really kinda aren't. More of the American jewish conservative factions are, but the American jewish leftist factions are not.

You could also call them globalist. That may seem contradictory, but it's not if you want Jews to dominate the world.

That's not how globalist is ever used. Even when it comes to 'global dominance of an ideology', that's not what Globalism implies. Globalism's intolerance of other ideas is just an extension of it's Leftism.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

American Jews are overwhelmingly left-wing and overwhelmingly pro-Israel.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rather-than-drifting-away-over-two-thirds-of-us-jews-feel-tie-to-israel-poll/

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

American jews are majority left-wing, and "pro-Israel" has to be more specific:

A majority of US Jews (57%) said they are “pro-Israel but also critical of Israeli policy.” Only 23% said they are pro-Israel and also supportive of the current government’s policies.

“Segmentation of the responses by affiliation shows a clear picture: Jews who identify with liberal streams feel that the relationship is weaker than their counterparts,” the statement said

Which is what I'm talking about. Plenty of Leftist jews are sympathetic to the "Pro-Palestine" movement; while most Leftist non-jews are just explicitly Pro-Palestine. Leftist jews are going to balk at calling Israel an apartheid state, while Leftist non-jews are going to straight up claim Israel's committing a genocide.

Honestly, a good breakdown of that infighting can be seen in the UK Labour Party's Antisemitism investigation which documents the same splits, but within the UK.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Weaker doesn't mean they aren't supportive. Look at their reasoning. Hating Trump is the biggest reason.

According to 39% of respondents, “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s support for US President Donald Trump and his policies” is the chief reason for criticism of Israel, followed by increasing religious right-wing political influence (33%), treatment of Palestinians (25%) and the issue of West Bank settlements (24%).

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's still a continuation of the same problem. Netanyahu is the part of the Orthodox and Nationalist coalitions in Israel. He even got cited in that Jew vs. Jew book I mentioned as a serious concern for American jews which are more Globalist, Socialist, and Leftist. All of those issues that concern them are on exactly the same spectrum that align with Orthodox jews agendas in Israel. It's not a surprise that Orthodox jews also started turning out for Trump in NYC, after Leftist American jews allowed BLM to target them with hate crimes, and the Dems further targeted them with Covid measures they refused to take against Muslims. It's also what led to Orthodox jews in NYC voting as a block for Zeldin.

They don't want Israel as it is, and as it has been for decades. They want to fundamentally break Israel into something more: Leftist.

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