Very much so. Which is probably a large part of why I've not been wanting to watch most coverage on the whole thing. Everyone's trying to push the most fakeass madeup narratives and angles, but Western media especially has been trying to play up the "fighting for freedom" angle, which while not necessarily strictly "false" in that they are fighting to preserve their national sovereignty, it is not "exactly" a David and Goliath, underdog story either.
Russia's been pulling punches so they can min-max their gains with minimal costs and damage. And the "heroic Ukraine" is largely only holding their own because the "big bad wolf" doesn't want to overcook and spoil his entree, and because they're basically receiving open-NATO support without NATO countries actually firing anything themselves. I don't know if that makes it more or less proxy, as far as proxy wars go.
And in my previous comment I guess I should've emphasized that I didn't have an opinion either way on the statement I was quoting. I just found it amusing due to the way he was phrasing it. Maybe I've just been too immersed in Slavic memes lately.
The only way this ends is if they turn Kiev into a bombed out crater with little man still inside. If they don't kill him, the war will continue no matter what gains they make. He is the figure head, and without him, the west won't support much more than they have. It's disgusting that our governments have given anything to this after all they did to help bring this about.
That's why the media hyped him up with all those lies at the start. When in reality he is a little shithead that doesn't care about his citizens dying because he gets paid regardless
Very much so. Which is probably a large part of why I've not been wanting to watch most coverage on the whole thing. Everyone's trying to push the most fakeass madeup narratives and angles, but Western media especially has been trying to play up the "fighting for freedom" angle, which while not necessarily strictly "false" in that they are fighting to preserve their national sovereignty, it is not "exactly" a David and Goliath, underdog story either.
Russia's been pulling punches so they can min-max their gains with minimal costs and damage. And the "heroic Ukraine" is largely only holding their own because the "big bad wolf" doesn't want to overcook and spoil his entree, and because they're basically receiving open-NATO support without NATO countries actually firing anything themselves. I don't know if that makes it more or less proxy, as far as proxy wars go.
And in my previous comment I guess I should've emphasized that I didn't have an opinion either way on the statement I was quoting. I just found it amusing due to the way he was phrasing it. Maybe I've just been too immersed in Slavic memes lately.
The only way this ends is if they turn Kiev into a bombed out crater with little man still inside. If they don't kill him, the war will continue no matter what gains they make. He is the figure head, and without him, the west won't support much more than they have. It's disgusting that our governments have given anything to this after all they did to help bring this about.
That's why the media hyped him up with all those lies at the start. When in reality he is a little shithead that doesn't care about his citizens dying because he gets paid regardless