My point is that you can't read mind, either this is a hate crime or hate crimes need to be removed entirely.
Hence your question is wrong, it should not be "was the Waukesha massacre a hate crime" but rather a statement about hate crimes being different from crime is stupid - this being an entirely different thing not specifically related to the Waukesha massacre as, if anything, would point to the need of hate crime as the dude was a monster.
I do agree that hate crime is stupid in general and it is mostly used by leftists for political gain. I have no problem with removing hate crime as a category.
I don't know if it should be removed as a category, but even if it was I'm not going to complain because it should still be counted as an aggravating factor.
However, I don't think we can just say "well we can't read minds", we can still read intent.
Then you did not understand my argument. Other then him out right saying he killed them because they were white there is no other proof that you can have in this case or most other cases. We know he hates white people and he mass murdered white people. What other proof can we reasonably have here to prove a hate crime?
Either the category itself is stupid or this is 100% a hate crime.
I think I didn't understand your argument, because you didn't understand mine.
I never said the category isn't stupid. I was actually asking if we knew something about his intent. I hadn't heard anything from the prosecution that could vouch that it was a hate crime, and despite all of his craziness he never started screaming about Yakub or Kyle Rittenhouse in the trial.
My point is that you can't read mind, either this is a hate crime or hate crimes need to be removed entirely.
Hence your question is wrong, it should not be "was the Waukesha massacre a hate crime" but rather a statement about hate crimes being different from crime is stupid - this being an entirely different thing not specifically related to the Waukesha massacre as, if anything, would point to the need of hate crime as the dude was a monster.
I do agree that hate crime is stupid in general and it is mostly used by leftists for political gain. I have no problem with removing hate crime as a category.
I don't know if it should be removed as a category, but even if it was I'm not going to complain because it should still be counted as an aggravating factor.
However, I don't think we can just say "well we can't read minds", we can still read intent.
Then you did not understand my argument. Other then him out right saying he killed them because they were white there is no other proof that you can have in this case or most other cases. We know he hates white people and he mass murdered white people. What other proof can we reasonably have here to prove a hate crime?
Either the category itself is stupid or this is 100% a hate crime.
I think I didn't understand your argument, because you didn't understand mine.
I never said the category isn't stupid. I was actually asking if we knew something about his intent. I hadn't heard anything from the prosecution that could vouch that it was a hate crime, and despite all of his craziness he never started screaming about Yakub or Kyle Rittenhouse in the trial.