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Michigan State GOP is trash. They did nothing to stop the Dems from passing Michigan Proposal 2 which changes the state constitution to institute permanent vote by mail, drop boxes and makes voter ID optional. GOP will likely never win Michigan in a statewide or federal race again! (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 2 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +92 / -0
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– OldBullLee -4 points 2 years ago +3 / -7

Fraud does not explain the nationwide R under-performance. The Rs simply failed to get out the vote.

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– Guy_Incognito76 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

States with mail in ballots, Rs got crushed.

States without mail in, Rs do fine.

So either mail in ballots are fraud or there are massive amounts of Ds way too lazy to vote. Probably both. Either way, you can't say "vote harder." Mail in ballots need to be banned.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

This "vote harder" shit is clever, but the truth is not enough people voted R, despite any fuckery with these idiotic mail-ins.

If enough lazy bastards actually prized their fat asses out of their sofas and went to the polls, mail-in fraud would be inconsequential.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You can't ban mail in ballots without winning each of those states' governor and legislature races.

Rs have to learn to do what the Dems do with ballot harvesting.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 3 points 2 years ago +6 / -3

Fraud and Get out the vote were certainly parts of the problem but it still doesn't fully explain everything.

Exit polls are not that great but every single one of them shows that indie voters somehow went for Dems even in this environment in competitive swing states like WI, MI and PA

The Dobbs ruling, certain candidates constantly talking about 2020 election fraud and certain candidates affiliation with Trump hurt the GOP with indies.

I personally despise indie voters for being emotional cucks but we need to win more indies to win overall.

GOP needs to change many things for 2024.

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