Here we go again. Nazis and Communists are causing trouble again, feuding between themselves as they vie for power. Inevitably it will fall to God-fearing, freedom loving people to put them in their place once again.
So essentially, freedom for me, but not for thee
Sound familiar?
What you say about 'Freedom requires vigorous defense', is why I pointed to the paradox of tolerance. Tolerance requires, intolerance of intolerance. Its a whole thing, in case you haven't read about it.
At the same time, freedom requires the lack of freedom, for those who propose a lack of freedom.
tl;dr I'm agreeing with you, and supporting your position with philosophies that have survived the cycles of civilizations.
That type of philosophizing is just navel gazing. In reality, anarchy is just as unsustainable as communism. If one person’s freedom encroaches on the freedom of another, then it is detrimental to freedom overall.
In the real world, freedom requires boundaries in order to have any sort of meaningful persistence.
Here we go again. Nazis and Communists are causing trouble again, feuding between themselves as they vie for power. Inevitably it will fall to God-fearing, freedom loving people to put them in their place once again.
Pick one
(I get your point though, and I point you to the paradox of tolerance in support of it)
I don’t see the paradox. Freedom requires vigorous defense. Tolerance should have limits like everything else.
Freedom > Free to do anything
Put them in their place > They are not 'free'
So essentially, freedom for me, but not for thee Sound familiar?
What you say about 'Freedom requires vigorous defense', is why I pointed to the paradox of tolerance. Tolerance requires, intolerance of intolerance. Its a whole thing, in case you haven't read about it.
At the same time, freedom requires the lack of freedom, for those who propose a lack of freedom.
tl;dr I'm agreeing with you, and supporting your position with philosophies that have survived the cycles of civilizations.
That type of philosophizing is just navel gazing. In reality, anarchy is just as unsustainable as communism. If one person’s freedom encroaches on the freedom of another, then it is detrimental to freedom overall.
In the real world, freedom requires boundaries in order to have any sort of meaningful persistence.
Fuck your freedom, you subhuman cocksucker. You need to be stomped on like the wee little bug you are.