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Daily Beast: "[Kari Lake] Was Supposed to Be Unelectable. Now She’s the Favorite....Democrats are wondering how that happened." (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +52 / -0
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– SR388-SAX 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Back in 2016, when I still had a glimmer of hope that the Democrats weren't completely insane, I was genuinely hopeful that the loss to Donald Trump would force them to take a moment of introspection.

Instead, they doubled down on absolutely everything and added a whole host of new forms of crazy, and at this point, I think the core of the party has sincerely bought into their own lies. It's one thing to tell lies about your opponent to try to win (not laudable, but at least an effective tactic) but if you actually believe the lies yourself ... well, you end up where the Democrats are today. Completely impenetrable by reality.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Back in 2016, when I still had a glimmer of hope that the Democrats weren't completely insane

Honest to God, I was supporting Hillary Clinton until late in 2016. I though Trump was crazy and would start a nuclear war (ironic innit). In my defense, I'm European.

It's one thing to tell lies about your opponent to try to win (not laudable, but at least an effective tactic) but if you actually believe the lies yourself ... well, you end up where the Democrats are today. Completely impenetrable by reality.

There's plenty of crazy on our side as well (e.g. Paul Pelosi being in a gay affair or whatever, with 0 evidence), but yeah, it's much worse on theirs. However, I think they're not really believers but just obedient. If the media told ceased telling them lies about Trump, they'd cease believing them.

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– elleand202 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

There's plenty of crazy on our side as well (e.g. Paul Pelosi being in a gay affair or whatever, with 0 evidence),

Considering how the media and Democrats immediately decided to smear all conservatives as fomenting violence without any evidence, I don't feel bad at all smearing Pelosi as a homosexual on the cruise. In fact, I'd bet that most people are just saying he's gay mostly as a smear.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

He's done nothing to me, or you, so I don't think a 'smear' is justified against someone who was the victim of a violent crime.

There are ways to push back on media and politicians politicizing this without either downplaying or appearing to downplay what happened here.

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– SR388-SAX 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

He's done nothing to me, or you

He's gotten filthy rich off of opportune stock trades made on insider trading through his wife. Fuck him.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

(e.g. Paul Pelosi being in a gay affair or whatever, with 0 evidence)

That's not crazy, that's just funny.

Crazy is, "we need to mutilate the genitals of children and you have to pay for it or you're a bigot." There is nothing even close to this level of insanity on the Republican side.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"We're less crazy than the other guys" isn't really an appealing slogan.

Literally anything that is spun by the media as being bad for the right, the right makes up ridiculous excuses for.

It's better than "I get Rand Paul's neighbor", but it's still not great.

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