Umm yes, the Afghan government was a US nation building project that we propped up, and the Afghans were fighting to defend globohomo women's rights and other shit like that that ran counter to their own historical culture and religion. So yes, these Afghans were fighting more for the US and the other globohomo powers who showed up than for "Afghanistan".
I wouldn't call the Afghan government a "puppet", because we couldn't just tell it what to do - as evidenced by Biden trying to ask the Afghans to downplay how bad things were until the pullout instead of simply issuing a directive as one would to a puppet, or by giving advice instead of orders. Russia sure as fuck isn't asking its puppet in Kherson to do things, it's ordering him. He doesn't have a choice.
And, of course, there is a world of difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine, where Ukraine was never a US puppet in any sense, and was instead a fully independent country exercising its self determination.
Umm yes, the Afghan government was a US nation building project that we propped up, and the Afghans were fighting to defend globohomo women's rights and other shit like that that ran counter to their own historical culture and religion. So yes, these Afghans were fighting more for the US and the other globohomo powers who showed up than for "Afghanistan".
I absolutely agree. But I thought it was an unintentional admission on your part, which is why I highlighted it.
I wouldn't call the Afghan government a "puppet",
On a scale of 0 to Ukraine, I'd say it's Ukraine.
as evidenced by Biden trying to ask the Afghans to downplay how bad things were until the pullout instead of simply issuing a directive as one would to a puppet, or by giving advice instead of orders.
You have very little leverage over a country when you are pulling support and the government is literally about to fall. It's as if the US stopped supporting and delivering weapons to Vladimir Zelensky, and bribing Ukrainian politicians.
Obviously, there is no mechanism by which the US could possibly puppeteer people directly. Even Moscow could not directly puppeteer its vassal states, as evidenced by Alexander Dubcek and Nagy.
there is a world of difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine, where Ukraine was never a US puppet in any sense, and was instead a fully independent country exercising its self determination.
Fully independent. Yatsenyuk is going to be Prime Minister.
Umm yes, the Afghan government was a US nation building project that we propped up, and the Afghans were fighting to defend globohomo women's rights and other shit like that that ran counter to their own historical culture and religion. So yes, these Afghans were fighting more for the US and the other globohomo powers who showed up than for "Afghanistan".
I wouldn't call the Afghan government a "puppet", because we couldn't just tell it what to do - as evidenced by Biden trying to ask the Afghans to downplay how bad things were until the pullout instead of simply issuing a directive as one would to a puppet, or by giving advice instead of orders. Russia sure as fuck isn't asking its puppet in Kherson to do things, it's ordering him. He doesn't have a choice.
And, of course, there is a world of difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine, where Ukraine was never a US puppet in any sense, and was instead a fully independent country exercising its self determination.
I absolutely agree. But I thought it was an unintentional admission on your part, which is why I highlighted it.
On a scale of 0 to Ukraine, I'd say it's Ukraine.
You have very little leverage over a country when you are pulling support and the government is literally about to fall. It's as if the US stopped supporting and delivering weapons to Vladimir Zelensky, and bribing Ukrainian politicians.
Obviously, there is no mechanism by which the US could possibly puppeteer people directly. Even Moscow could not directly puppeteer its vassal states, as evidenced by Alexander Dubcek and Nagy.
Fully independent. Yatsenyuk is going to be Prime Minister.