If the women initiates the breakup, then she takes the kids before the father gets home, or similar.
The courts almost never ever take the children from one parent and give them to the other. Therefore the party with the kids wins by default.
This is bizarre. How is that not kidnapping?
You want a solution? Fine. The fathers get custody in every case of dispute. So, men don't control womens' bodies (to force an abortion etc) but they can't profit from the children either.
So if the father is manifestly unfit, still give it to him because of some ridiculous notion of 'profting'?
After that, leave it to negotiation between couples.
I wonder how common what you say is. Because it mystifies me. Are things so much worse in the US, or am I simply not aware of similar things happening here?
Women who filed for divorce usually felt confident that they could keep their children.
“The question of custody swamps other variables,” find professors Margaret Biring and Douglas Willen in their article, “These Boots are Made for Walking: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women.”
“Our study found that children are the most important asset in a marriage and the partner who expects to get custody is by far the one most likely to file for divorce.”
You are assuming that men who knock up a girl and disappear are a major problem; that just isn't true Tony. Today no woman has to get pregnant or carry a baby if she doesn't want to do that. The reality is that every woman today who has a baby chooses to do that.
Most of the children that are born are born into some kind of relationship. It is very rare that the father doesn't live with the children, at least for a time. Women initiate separation and divorce, and they do it in the sure confidence that they can and will keep the children, and access to the man's income.
Go and talk to some male divorcees. You must know some! One of the worst divorce horror stories I ever heard was from a gay guy. His wife spent more than two years planning the breakup, and she took him for everything. She was fucking furious that he had married her while in deep denial. She went so far as to hook up with his business partner, then with her half of his share plus the business partners share, they shut him out of the business, with a minor interest and made sure he could not get paid. He never saw his kids again. These are not unusual stories.
My ex has been caught twice by Family Services, coaching my daughter to say that she never wants to see me again. The court social-workers know this, and were still sympathetic to her on every occasion. She will never face any consequences for what she has done. This is standard. I actually got away as well as any man I know.
Even if we adopted the changes that I proposed, that men get custody by default, there would be many, many cases of shared custody. Men honestly want to make women happy.
This is bizarre. How is that not kidnapping?
So if the father is manifestly unfit, still give it to him because of some ridiculous notion of 'profting'?
I wonder how common what you say is. Because it mystifies me. Are things so much worse in the US, or am I simply not aware of similar things happening here?
Tony, right now many mothers are manifestly unfit. Why do you presume fitness for women but not for men? Do you want to think about that or a minute?
https://mensdivorcelaw.com/statistics-show-women-more-often-initiate-divorce/
You are assuming that men who knock up a girl and disappear are a major problem; that just isn't true Tony. Today no woman has to get pregnant or carry a baby if she doesn't want to do that. The reality is that every woman today who has a baby chooses to do that.
Most of the children that are born are born into some kind of relationship. It is very rare that the father doesn't live with the children, at least for a time. Women initiate separation and divorce, and they do it in the sure confidence that they can and will keep the children, and access to the man's income.
Go and talk to some male divorcees. You must know some! One of the worst divorce horror stories I ever heard was from a gay guy. His wife spent more than two years planning the breakup, and she took him for everything. She was fucking furious that he had married her while in deep denial. She went so far as to hook up with his business partner, then with her half of his share plus the business partners share, they shut him out of the business, with a minor interest and made sure he could not get paid. He never saw his kids again. These are not unusual stories.
My ex has been caught twice by Family Services, coaching my daughter to say that she never wants to see me again. The court social-workers know this, and were still sympathetic to her on every occasion. She will never face any consequences for what she has done. This is standard. I actually got away as well as any man I know.
Even if we adopted the changes that I proposed, that men get custody by default, there would be many, many cases of shared custody. Men honestly want to make women happy.