You should call them Progressives, not liberals. They don't see themselves as "liberals" any more. Calling evil by its true name has great power, and it also really, really triggers them. Seriously do it do them in person and it's like a scene from The Exorcist.
That incredibly broad definition, which makes anyone who isn't a bootlicking monarchist a "liberal" (including the writers of the US constitution) is basically the conservative version of "everyone i don't like is a fascist".
I use those terms in the commonly understood sense, not in the historical and maybe more accurate sense you're using them, so I'm not sure I can answer that. But I agree with what you said re "individualization coming after, not before, group/familial/etc influence".
So help me understand the landscape. If conservatives and even the writers of the Constitution are liberals, what other broad political categories are there?
You should call them Progressives, not liberals. They don't see themselves as "liberals" any more. Calling evil by its true name has great power, and it also really, really triggers them. Seriously do it do them in person and it's like a scene from The Exorcist.
That incredibly broad definition, which makes anyone who isn't a bootlicking monarchist a "liberal" (including the writers of the US constitution) is basically the conservative version of "everyone i don't like is a fascist".
I use those terms in the commonly understood sense, not in the historical and maybe more accurate sense you're using them, so I'm not sure I can answer that. But I agree with what you said re "individualization coming after, not before, group/familial/etc influence".
So help me understand the landscape. If conservatives and even the writers of the Constitution are liberals, what other broad political categories are there?