That incredibly broad definition, which makes anyone who isn't a bootlicking monarchist a "liberal" (including the writers of the US constitution) is basically the conservative version of "everyone i don't like is a fascist".
I use those terms in the commonly understood sense, not in the historical and maybe more accurate sense you're using them, so I'm not sure I can answer that. But I agree with what you said re "individualization coming after, not before, group/familial/etc influence".
So help me understand the landscape. If conservatives and even the writers of the Constitution are liberals, what other broad political categories are there?
That incredibly broad definition, which makes anyone who isn't a bootlicking monarchist a "liberal" (including the writers of the US constitution) is basically the conservative version of "everyone i don't like is a fascist".
I use those terms in the commonly understood sense, not in the historical and maybe more accurate sense you're using them, so I'm not sure I can answer that. But I agree with what you said re "individualization coming after, not before, group/familial/etc influence".
So help me understand the landscape. If conservatives and even the writers of the Constitution are liberals, what other broad political categories are there?