That's what the French claimed after World War II.
The French were defeated on the battlefield. The US was not.
And Pyrrhus of Epirus also decisively won all combat in the first two years.
No, he by definition did NOT win DECISIVELY, hence the term "Pyrrhic Victory", which means when you technically win, but you take such high casualties that you are effectively defeated regardless since you are forced to retreat. Again, this didn't happen with the US. The US basically suffered 0 combat casualties for years and years leading up to the withdrawal since we only had a small footprint left in support positions and that was enough to keep the Taliban down UNTIL Biden decided to pull all support, which caused the Afghans to collapse and give up. The Afghans were still fighting and capable of winning in 2020, but then collapsed in 2021 very quickly after Biden totally abandoned them. And the Biden admin KNEW this is why it was going to shit and didn't reverse course because the Democrats wanted out, even if it was going to be ugly.
The NLF were.
Most Viet Cong were a combat force, not rice farmers, and they got utterly destroyed when they tried to launch a major offensive, the Tet Offensive. SOME civilians affiliated with the VC were "rice farmers", but they didn't engage in combat, they did shit like planting mines and traps.
But to answer your question: because the said corrupt criminals are your puppets.
You give the US too much credit. Our leaders are too incompetent to puppet anyone.
And because you have no principles
I have principles. The Democrats don't, they just want power, globohomo, and to impose their weird, destructive socialist ideology. You need to understand that the Democrats are only about half the US, and the other half, myself included, have plenty of principles and oppose them. That said, you could see from the Trump presidency that Trump could not go up against the deep state by himself and win. This is going to be a generational struggle and my hope is that DeSantis or someone similar can finally start to roll back the Left's control of government.
You care about Russia invading a corrupt puppet country because Russia is your enemy and that country is your puppet.
I didn't want Russia to be my enemy. There were many times since the 1990s where I and other conservatives thought "Hey Russia, the Cold War is over, let's join forces and both kill some fucking terrorists, okay?" but sadly, Putin didn't want to make nice with us and wanted to keep the Cold War going in his own way. The Democrats even embarrassingly did the Reset button but again, Russia wasn't interested. Okay, then. If Putin wanted to keep us as an enemy, I guess he can get his wish.
I oppose Russian (or Chinese or anyone else) empire-building because it constitutes a threat to the world economic and trade order that underlies western prosperity and GDP growth. I wouldn't mind at all if 3rd world countries were colonies of European countries and exploited for resources like the old days. If anything, that would just benefit the whole world. But Russia and China want to OVERTHROW and REPLACE the western-led economic order, and that fucks with my money, so fuck them, they can get fucked wrecked in a war and kept in their place.
Ukraine might be corrupt by EU standards, but not as corrupt as Russia.
Ukraine has never been a US puppet. Instead, it was simply a democratic country that wanted to turn away from Russia and towards the EU. It will likely fully join the EU after this war is over.
When Azerbaijan invades Armenia, you don't give a damn
I do, actually. I have stated my support for Armenia and opposition to Azerbaijan many times. I support Armenia because it's a Christian nation invaded by a Muslim one, and because Azerbaijan is the aggressor and I view them as Palestinian-like genocidal assholes. I also supported Serbia in the 90s for similar reasons, and opposed the EU/NATO bullying of Serbia.
And yet you're not even honest about it, that this is 100% and solely about your own interests, not about the "rules-based international order" which is Western hegemony that should be smashed.
You keep saying "you" attached to comments that clearly do not apply to me. I agree that the liberals should be smashed. If we had an "international order" run by people like Trump, DeSantis, and other right wing leaders, the world would be a much better place that wasn't obsessed with trannies, faggots, and other mentally ill people. We would actually allow countries to maintain common sense immigration laws to preserve their national identity and culture like Japan does, instead of getting fucked like Sweden.
See, the problem is that I have to say 'you' here, while I do believe that you are well-intentioned.
Thank you, but you don't have to say "you", you can say "the Biden admin". And look, I admit that even if Republicans win in 2024, the 95% of Democrats control of career government jobs isn't going to disappear. This is a MAJOR generational problem that will take decades to root out and reform. The deep state of unelected bureaucrats totally undermined Trump and make it much more difficult for him to get things done.
Your criminal government, on the other hand...
We have a problem right now where the only way we are going to reform our government is to keep winning elections so that we can keep up the pressure so the Democrats can't just play for time for 4 years and then take back power like what happened with Trump. We need to hold the Presidency for 8-20 years to really make a generational, deep cultural change in government.
And you should also be honest that the US is never going to lose a war, so change from the outside simply isn't going to happen. China has no shot. Not only is China a lot weaker than it looks on paper, but when it finally starts a war, it won't ONLY be fighting the US, it will be fighting everyone else nearby, like Australia, Japan, and others, possibly India. China is basically the last major threat to the global world order, and it doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of overthrowing it. It's just a question of how messy it is going to be for the CCP to finally fall, and how many people have to die. My preference is for fewer people to die, and that requires a decisive victory.
There is a significant chance that if nothing changes fundamentally with the Democrats, that the US will continue to divide on Red/Blue lines until we have another "civil war" which likely won't be a bloody conflict but will instead be more of a national divorce with both sides refusing to continue with the "winner take all" federal government. If anything it might be the Blue states that try to secede if Republicans keep winning the White House, and I can tell you that I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT select deep blue states leaving the US so that conservatives could control the rest.
The French were defeated on the battlefield. The US was not.
No 'defeat' is final. It's only final when you decide that you don't want to hold it out anymore.
No, he by definition did NOT win DECISIVELY, hence the term "Pyrrhic Victory", which means when you technically win, but you take such high casualties that you are effectively defeated regardless since you are forced to retreat. Again, this didn't happen with the US.
The cause of the Pyrrhic victory can be anything. Clearly, the costs were too high for the US to sustain them. Ergo, the US was defeated.
You give the US too much credit. Our leaders are too incompetent to puppet anyone.
And our leaders are so incompetent that they do not need anyone competent to puppet them.
You need to understand that the Democrats are only about half the US, and the other half, myself included, have plenty of principles and oppose them.
Yes, and I think even a lot of rank-and-file Democrats do have principles, they're just very deluded. Also, a lot of GOP politicians don't. That is the problem. But that is why the sophisticated propaganda apparatus exists to make sure that the people are persuaded of what the politicians want them to believe. And that is why pure power plays like this "Ukraine" crap is always cloaked in something that the average American will find acceptable.
That said, you could see from the Trump presidency that Trump could not go up against the deep state by himself and win. This is going to be a generational struggle and my hope is that DeSantis or someone similar can finally start to roll back the Left's control of government.
As you say, the regime is the problem, not the figureheads at the top.
I didn't want Russia to be my enemy. There were many times since the 1990s where I and other conservatives thought "Hey Russia, the Cold War is over, let's join forces and both kill some fucking terrorists, okay?" but sadly, Putin didn't want to make nice with us and wanted to keep the Cold War going in his own way.
Are you completely mad? You think that it's Russia that wasn't playing nice? Not the people who betrayed Russia and kept expanding NATO as well as sponsoring coups and revolutions in countries allied to Russia, despite knowing full well that Russia was not happy with this, and wouldn't accept it?
I wouldn't mind at all if 3rd world countries were colonies of European countries and exploited for resources like the old days. If anything, that would just benefit the whole world.
They benefited at the time. They would not benefit now, as the European countries would just push homosexuality, racial divison and feminist claptrap down their throats.
Ukraine has never been a US puppet. Instead, it was simply a democratic country that wanted to turn away from Russia and towards the EU. It will likely fully join the EU after this war is over.
There is nothing 'democratic' about Ukraine, or other countries in the EU. They sure as hell aren't doing anything that is to the benefit of the people.
I do, actually. I have stated my support for Armenia and opposition to Azerbaijan many times. I support Armenia because it's a Christian nation invaded by a Muslim one, and because Azerbaijan is the aggressor and I view them as Palestinian-like genocidal assholes. I also supported Serbia in the 90s for similar reasons, and opposed the EU/NATO bullying of Serbia.
Very good. Unfortunately, too often American power gets put to use to help genocidal assholes, which is why I'm hoping that countries like Russia and China will destroy American power.
If we had an "international order" run by people like Trump, DeSantis, and other right wing leaders, the world would be a much better place that wasn't obsessed with trannies, faggots, and other mentally ill people. We would actually allow countries to maintain common sense immigration laws to preserve their national identity and culture like Japan does, instead of getting fucked like Sweden.
The problem is that eventually, "libs" are going to come to power again, assuming for a moment that they will ever be dislodgded to begin with. The result of that is that any increase in American power will just give those libs more power with which to push globohomo. So DeSantis makes America stronger, and after him President AOC or whatever will just use it to wreck even more places.
Thank you, but you don't have to say "you", you can say "the Biden admin".
It's not Biden or any "administration". Else the problem would be solved with a change of person at the top. It is the regime.
I admit that even if Republicans win in 2024, the 95% of Democrats control of career government jobs isn't going to disappear. This is a MAJOR generational problem that will take decades to root out and reform. The deep state of unelected bureaucrats totally undermined Trump and make it much more difficult for him to get things done.
Good luck with that, I'm definitely rooting for you. But I don't think that you will succeed, because you are no more democratic than we are.
We have a problem right now where the only way we are going to reform our government is to keep winning elections so that we can keep up the pressure so the Democrats can't just play for time for 4 years and then take back power like what happened with Trump. We need to hold the Presidency for 8-20 years to really make a generational, deep cultural change in government.
I don't think that is going to happen. And that is why so called 'elections' are so useful to the elites. Even if by some off chance someone who is not to their liking gets into office, he'll soon be replaced and everything he did is overturned.
I am happy with some of the stuff on the state level though, but judges generally ruin those too.
And you should also be honest that the US is never going to lose a war, so change from the outside simply isn't going to happen. China has no shot. Not only is China a lot weaker than it looks on paper, but when it finally starts a war, it won't ONLY be fighting the US, it will be fighting everyone else nearby, like Australia, Japan, and others, possibly India.
India isn't going to war with a nuclear power over Taiwan. Same as Australia and Japan. But it will depend on judgments of Chinese strength or weakness. If China repeats the Russia stuff with India, in that it settled its border disputes and made a solid ally out of it, there can be a broader alliance to smash American hegemony.
China is basically the last major threat to the global world order, and it doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of overthrowing it.
You speak of the 'global world order' as if it's a good thing. It means that America can murder hundreds of thousands, if not millions, while hypocritically crying about the actions of others.
There is a significant chance that if nothing changes fundamentally with the Democrats, that the US will continue to divide on Red/Blue lines until we have another "civil war" which likely won't be a bloody conflict but will instead be more of a national divorce with both sides refusing to continue with the "winner take all" federal government. If anything it might be the Blue states that try to secede if Republicans keep winning the White House, and I can tell you that I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT select deep blue states leaving the US so that conservatives could control the rest.
Ironically, internal conflict is what did Rome in, at least the Roman Republic.
The problem is that even conservative states are like 60-40. And liberal states 40-60. It does not eliminate the enemy within. It will only encourage conservatives to overreach, which will then lead to a realignment that still have liberals being competitive. There are no permanent victories.
Also, a lot of GOP politicians don't. That is the problem.
As a general rule most politicians are going to be politicians because they're narcissists, not because they actually care about policy. Rand Paul is a good example of a politician who cares about policy. Ted Cruz is a good example of a guy who is split about 50/50 between policy and narcissism. Probably 80-90% are just in it for the clout.
Are you completely mad? You think that it's Russia that wasn't playing nice?
Yes.
Not the people who betrayed Russia and kept expanding NATO as well as sponsoring coups and revolutions in countries allied to Russia, despite knowing full well that Russia was not happy with this, and wouldn't accept it?
If Russia played nice eventually it would have been able to join NATO itself.
The West, myself included, reject this whole "sphere of influence" horse shit. Russia does not have ownership over countries like Georgia just because they're near Russia.
I reject that the West sponsored any coups or revolutions. People in places like Georgia and Ukraine came to want to join the West because the West is clearly superior. It turns out people like wealth and a high standard of living, who knew? The majority of people don't even mind trannies, faggots, and BLM if it means they get to consoom.
Very good. Unfortunately, too often American power gets put to use to help genocidal assholes, which is why I'm hoping that countries like Russia and China will destroy American power.
The Democrats love to act as the enforcers for the EU. Your hopes are in vain, though. Russia is already broken as a power and has been unmasked as a weakling. China - as a country with its military built entirely according to Russian tech and doctrine - is also by extension weaker than everyone thought 9 months ago. China will be able to cause messy wars in the future unless it is brought to heel economically, but those wars have a 0% chance of actually overthrowing the international order. Everyone will gang up on China.
So DeSantis makes America stronger, and after him President AOC or whatever will just use it to wreck even more places.
It's possible to crush the power of the wokes to the point where the Democrats shift to the Right enough that even when they regain power, they are forced to follow a more moderate path. We just have to keep showing the American people how crazy the wokes are until "woke" becomes radioactive.
But I don't think that you will succeed
Republicans have a better chance than China, that's for sure.
India isn't going to war with a nuclear power over Taiwan.
India will 100% go to war with China because it hates China and would love to have a chance to bully China and throw the Chinese out of the disputed border regions. when China has its hands full fighting on many other fronts. Also India isn't afraid of China's nukes. India has its own nukes.
Same as Australia and Japan.
Australia and Japan are 100% down to war with China. I don't know why you seem to think everyone is scared of nukes. They aren't. Nukes are a joke. As long as everyone has them, they cancel out. And Japan/AUS are under the US nuclear shield anyway.
If China repeats the Russia stuff with India, in that it settled its border disputes and made a solid ally out of it, there can be a broader alliance to smash American hegemony.
The CCP hates India and devotes a lot of resources to planning to attack and defeat it in a war. The CCP has 0 interest in "teaming up" with India. India and China are natural enemies, and their hostility is only going to get worse as a lot of supply chains begin to leave China for India in the next 5 years.
It will only encourage conservatives to overreach, which will then lead to a realignment that still have liberals being competitive. There are no permanent victories.
If you have a 60/40 advantage in the US, you basically get full Left or Right wing policies, no compromise. The only way for the minority party to compete is to only run as slightly more left/right of the dominant party, such that you end up with RINOs like Mitt Romney who are still quite liberal. I would be totally fine with DINOs who basically agreed with all conservative policy except they wanted a little more welfare.
The French were defeated on the battlefield. The US was not.
No, he by definition did NOT win DECISIVELY, hence the term "Pyrrhic Victory", which means when you technically win, but you take such high casualties that you are effectively defeated regardless since you are forced to retreat. Again, this didn't happen with the US. The US basically suffered 0 combat casualties for years and years leading up to the withdrawal since we only had a small footprint left in support positions and that was enough to keep the Taliban down UNTIL Biden decided to pull all support, which caused the Afghans to collapse and give up. The Afghans were still fighting and capable of winning in 2020, but then collapsed in 2021 very quickly after Biden totally abandoned them. And the Biden admin KNEW this is why it was going to shit and didn't reverse course because the Democrats wanted out, even if it was going to be ugly.
Most Viet Cong were a combat force, not rice farmers, and they got utterly destroyed when they tried to launch a major offensive, the Tet Offensive. SOME civilians affiliated with the VC were "rice farmers", but they didn't engage in combat, they did shit like planting mines and traps.
You give the US too much credit. Our leaders are too incompetent to puppet anyone.
I have principles. The Democrats don't, they just want power, globohomo, and to impose their weird, destructive socialist ideology. You need to understand that the Democrats are only about half the US, and the other half, myself included, have plenty of principles and oppose them. That said, you could see from the Trump presidency that Trump could not go up against the deep state by himself and win. This is going to be a generational struggle and my hope is that DeSantis or someone similar can finally start to roll back the Left's control of government.
I didn't want Russia to be my enemy. There were many times since the 1990s where I and other conservatives thought "Hey Russia, the Cold War is over, let's join forces and both kill some fucking terrorists, okay?" but sadly, Putin didn't want to make nice with us and wanted to keep the Cold War going in his own way. The Democrats even embarrassingly did the Reset button but again, Russia wasn't interested. Okay, then. If Putin wanted to keep us as an enemy, I guess he can get his wish.
I oppose Russian (or Chinese or anyone else) empire-building because it constitutes a threat to the world economic and trade order that underlies western prosperity and GDP growth. I wouldn't mind at all if 3rd world countries were colonies of European countries and exploited for resources like the old days. If anything, that would just benefit the whole world. But Russia and China want to OVERTHROW and REPLACE the western-led economic order, and that fucks with my money, so fuck them, they can get fucked wrecked in a war and kept in their place.
Ukraine might be corrupt by EU standards, but not as corrupt as Russia.
Ukraine has never been a US puppet. Instead, it was simply a democratic country that wanted to turn away from Russia and towards the EU. It will likely fully join the EU after this war is over.
I do, actually. I have stated my support for Armenia and opposition to Azerbaijan many times. I support Armenia because it's a Christian nation invaded by a Muslim one, and because Azerbaijan is the aggressor and I view them as Palestinian-like genocidal assholes. I also supported Serbia in the 90s for similar reasons, and opposed the EU/NATO bullying of Serbia.
Here is my post complaining that Biden himself is funding them: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/15JUCeqxGA/joe-biden-is-responsible-for-the/c/
You keep saying "you" attached to comments that clearly do not apply to me. I agree that the liberals should be smashed. If we had an "international order" run by people like Trump, DeSantis, and other right wing leaders, the world would be a much better place that wasn't obsessed with trannies, faggots, and other mentally ill people. We would actually allow countries to maintain common sense immigration laws to preserve their national identity and culture like Japan does, instead of getting fucked like Sweden.
Thank you, but you don't have to say "you", you can say "the Biden admin". And look, I admit that even if Republicans win in 2024, the 95% of Democrats control of career government jobs isn't going to disappear. This is a MAJOR generational problem that will take decades to root out and reform. The deep state of unelected bureaucrats totally undermined Trump and make it much more difficult for him to get things done.
We have a problem right now where the only way we are going to reform our government is to keep winning elections so that we can keep up the pressure so the Democrats can't just play for time for 4 years and then take back power like what happened with Trump. We need to hold the Presidency for 8-20 years to really make a generational, deep cultural change in government.
And you should also be honest that the US is never going to lose a war, so change from the outside simply isn't going to happen. China has no shot. Not only is China a lot weaker than it looks on paper, but when it finally starts a war, it won't ONLY be fighting the US, it will be fighting everyone else nearby, like Australia, Japan, and others, possibly India. China is basically the last major threat to the global world order, and it doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of overthrowing it. It's just a question of how messy it is going to be for the CCP to finally fall, and how many people have to die. My preference is for fewer people to die, and that requires a decisive victory.
There is a significant chance that if nothing changes fundamentally with the Democrats, that the US will continue to divide on Red/Blue lines until we have another "civil war" which likely won't be a bloody conflict but will instead be more of a national divorce with both sides refusing to continue with the "winner take all" federal government. If anything it might be the Blue states that try to secede if Republicans keep winning the White House, and I can tell you that I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT select deep blue states leaving the US so that conservatives could control the rest.
No 'defeat' is final. It's only final when you decide that you don't want to hold it out anymore.
The cause of the Pyrrhic victory can be anything. Clearly, the costs were too high for the US to sustain them. Ergo, the US was defeated.
And our leaders are so incompetent that they do not need anyone competent to puppet them.
Yes, and I think even a lot of rank-and-file Democrats do have principles, they're just very deluded. Also, a lot of GOP politicians don't. That is the problem. But that is why the sophisticated propaganda apparatus exists to make sure that the people are persuaded of what the politicians want them to believe. And that is why pure power plays like this "Ukraine" crap is always cloaked in something that the average American will find acceptable.
As you say, the regime is the problem, not the figureheads at the top.
Are you completely mad? You think that it's Russia that wasn't playing nice? Not the people who betrayed Russia and kept expanding NATO as well as sponsoring coups and revolutions in countries allied to Russia, despite knowing full well that Russia was not happy with this, and wouldn't accept it?
They benefited at the time. They would not benefit now, as the European countries would just push homosexuality, racial divison and feminist claptrap down their throats.
There is nothing 'democratic' about Ukraine, or other countries in the EU. They sure as hell aren't doing anything that is to the benefit of the people.
Very good. Unfortunately, too often American power gets put to use to help genocidal assholes, which is why I'm hoping that countries like Russia and China will destroy American power.
The problem is that eventually, "libs" are going to come to power again, assuming for a moment that they will ever be dislodgded to begin with. The result of that is that any increase in American power will just give those libs more power with which to push globohomo. So DeSantis makes America stronger, and after him President AOC or whatever will just use it to wreck even more places.
It's not Biden or any "administration". Else the problem would be solved with a change of person at the top. It is the regime.
Good luck with that, I'm definitely rooting for you. But I don't think that you will succeed, because you are no more democratic than we are.
I don't think that is going to happen. And that is why so called 'elections' are so useful to the elites. Even if by some off chance someone who is not to their liking gets into office, he'll soon be replaced and everything he did is overturned.
I am happy with some of the stuff on the state level though, but judges generally ruin those too.
India isn't going to war with a nuclear power over Taiwan. Same as Australia and Japan. But it will depend on judgments of Chinese strength or weakness. If China repeats the Russia stuff with India, in that it settled its border disputes and made a solid ally out of it, there can be a broader alliance to smash American hegemony.
You speak of the 'global world order' as if it's a good thing. It means that America can murder hundreds of thousands, if not millions, while hypocritically crying about the actions of others.
Ironically, internal conflict is what did Rome in, at least the Roman Republic.
The problem is that even conservative states are like 60-40. And liberal states 40-60. It does not eliminate the enemy within. It will only encourage conservatives to overreach, which will then lead to a realignment that still have liberals being competitive. There are no permanent victories.
As a general rule most politicians are going to be politicians because they're narcissists, not because they actually care about policy. Rand Paul is a good example of a politician who cares about policy. Ted Cruz is a good example of a guy who is split about 50/50 between policy and narcissism. Probably 80-90% are just in it for the clout.
Yes.
If Russia played nice eventually it would have been able to join NATO itself.
The West, myself included, reject this whole "sphere of influence" horse shit. Russia does not have ownership over countries like Georgia just because they're near Russia.
I reject that the West sponsored any coups or revolutions. People in places like Georgia and Ukraine came to want to join the West because the West is clearly superior. It turns out people like wealth and a high standard of living, who knew? The majority of people don't even mind trannies, faggots, and BLM if it means they get to consoom.
The Democrats love to act as the enforcers for the EU. Your hopes are in vain, though. Russia is already broken as a power and has been unmasked as a weakling. China - as a country with its military built entirely according to Russian tech and doctrine - is also by extension weaker than everyone thought 9 months ago. China will be able to cause messy wars in the future unless it is brought to heel economically, but those wars have a 0% chance of actually overthrowing the international order. Everyone will gang up on China.
It's possible to crush the power of the wokes to the point where the Democrats shift to the Right enough that even when they regain power, they are forced to follow a more moderate path. We just have to keep showing the American people how crazy the wokes are until "woke" becomes radioactive.
Republicans have a better chance than China, that's for sure.
India will 100% go to war with China because it hates China and would love to have a chance to bully China and throw the Chinese out of the disputed border regions. when China has its hands full fighting on many other fronts. Also India isn't afraid of China's nukes. India has its own nukes.
Australia and Japan are 100% down to war with China. I don't know why you seem to think everyone is scared of nukes. They aren't. Nukes are a joke. As long as everyone has them, they cancel out. And Japan/AUS are under the US nuclear shield anyway.
The CCP hates India and devotes a lot of resources to planning to attack and defeat it in a war. The CCP has 0 interest in "teaming up" with India. India and China are natural enemies, and their hostility is only going to get worse as a lot of supply chains begin to leave China for India in the next 5 years.
If you have a 60/40 advantage in the US, you basically get full Left or Right wing policies, no compromise. The only way for the minority party to compete is to only run as slightly more left/right of the dominant party, such that you end up with RINOs like Mitt Romney who are still quite liberal. I would be totally fine with DINOs who basically agreed with all conservative policy except they wanted a little more welfare.