By now everyone here knows to take what the MSM says with a grain of salt.
Pro-Russian Telegram channels are confirming this, coping by saying that while territorial losses are dire, they allegedly made the correct military though not political decision to withdraw instead of losing more.
Only person who keeps insisting otherwise is Robert Barnes but he might just be coping at this point since his early predictions about who will win and how quickly they will win have been ridiculously wrong.
I'll take his side. Ukraine heavily outnumbers Russia, it's receiving infinite supplies from the Drag Queen Story Hour empire, intelligence from the collective West.
You have to look at all the factors. Russia was never as strong as people thought, nor as weak as some may think now.
Russia’s strength does not lie in a conflict in which they’ve deliberately tied one hand behind their own back in order to minimize loss of civilian life and infrastructure (versus an enemy that is a proxy for literally the entire West, with all of the media cover that entails).
If you want to see Russia’s full power, look to the energy sector in Europe.
I don’t love Russia. I’m a staunch American nationalist. We are currently under globalist occupation, so I am currently cheering for every sovereign nation who stands against the globalist west. Ukraine, as a vassal state and and money laundering playground for the corrupt American government, is not on the list of “nations” I support.
You know the US has given less than $10 billion in military aid to Ukraine so far, while Russia's military spending is $70+ billion per year against Ukraine's like 5? Almost the entire Ukrainian military force is based on inherited Soviet equipment, with a small amount of domestically produced newer stuff & refurbishments.
The whole "omg the West gave Ukraine all the guns" is a cope. The truth is that something like 95% of Ukrainian equipment is still soviet era shit.
You know the US has given less than $10 billion in military aid to Ukraine so far,
I know there was 40 billion in just one package for that shithole of a country. And since money is fungible, paying off its deficit means it can spend more on weapons.
The whole "omg the West gave Ukraine all the guns" is a cope.
8 years of that, 8 years of NATO training of Ukraine.
I know there was 40 billion in just one package for that shithole of a country.
Yes and almost none of that was for Ukraine military aid. It was just a giant wish list of items for the State Department and to a lesser extent the US military. There was a blank check of about $10 billion to Biden in authorization for future Ukraine aid which he has only used a few billion of so far. So he has enough for about another year at this pace before he would need to ask for more.
8 years of that, 8 years of NATO training of Ukraine.
Very few Ukrainians have been trained by NATO, probably under 5% of their total force. Basically just enough people to use the NATO equipment they're getting.
100% disagree. The US would be able to just walk over any other nation. I don't understand how you can think otherwise. You know we have 50,000 HIMARS rockets, right? You know we have the large majority of the world's actually effective stealth aircraft, right? You know we have the capability to identify and destroy virtually the entire OPFOR military force using solely satellite intelligence + long range GPS guided weapons?
Dude, nobody can even try to stand against us. On top of that, our offensive maneuver units have disgusting amounts of precision firepower, and that's before you consider that US air power can single-handedly destroy any other military on earth.
So no, offensives are not hard. Russia just has a rotted out husk of a military that was obsolete in doctrine and equipment such that it couldn't even defeat a soviet-era opponent. Russia went into this war with a huge air force it couldn't use because no SEAD. A huge tank force it couldn't use because of modern ATGMs, of which Ukraine had a large number even before it got lots of Javelins. & a military that was starved of infantry and overly-mechanized which looks strong on paper but then ends up with major logistics and rear area defense problems.
Pro-Russian Telegram channels are confirming this, coping by saying that while territorial losses are dire, they allegedly made the correct military though not political decision to withdraw instead of losing more.
I'll take his side. Ukraine heavily outnumbers Russia, it's receiving infinite supplies from the Drag Queen Story Hour empire, intelligence from the collective West.
You have to look at all the factors. Russia was never as strong as people thought, nor as weak as some may think now.
Russia’s strength does not lie in a conflict in which they’ve deliberately tied one hand behind their own back in order to minimize loss of civilian life and infrastructure (versus an enemy that is a proxy for literally the entire West, with all of the media cover that entails).
If you want to see Russia’s full power, look to the energy sector in Europe.
I don’t love Russia. I’m a staunch American nationalist. We are currently under globalist occupation, so I am currently cheering for every sovereign nation who stands against the globalist west. Ukraine, as a vassal state and and money laundering playground for the corrupt American government, is not on the list of “nations” I support.
You know the US has given less than $10 billion in military aid to Ukraine so far, while Russia's military spending is $70+ billion per year against Ukraine's like 5? Almost the entire Ukrainian military force is based on inherited Soviet equipment, with a small amount of domestically produced newer stuff & refurbishments.
The whole "omg the West gave Ukraine all the guns" is a cope. The truth is that something like 95% of Ukrainian equipment is still soviet era shit.
I know there was 40 billion in just one package for that shithole of a country. And since money is fungible, paying off its deficit means it can spend more on weapons.
8 years of that, 8 years of NATO training of Ukraine.
Yes and almost none of that was for Ukraine military aid. It was just a giant wish list of items for the State Department and to a lesser extent the US military. There was a blank check of about $10 billion to Biden in authorization for future Ukraine aid which he has only used a few billion of so far. So he has enough for about another year at this pace before he would need to ask for more.
Very few Ukrainians have been trained by NATO, probably under 5% of their total force. Basically just enough people to use the NATO equipment they're getting.
100% disagree. The US would be able to just walk over any other nation. I don't understand how you can think otherwise. You know we have 50,000 HIMARS rockets, right? You know we have the large majority of the world's actually effective stealth aircraft, right? You know we have the capability to identify and destroy virtually the entire OPFOR military force using solely satellite intelligence + long range GPS guided weapons?
Dude, nobody can even try to stand against us. On top of that, our offensive maneuver units have disgusting amounts of precision firepower, and that's before you consider that US air power can single-handedly destroy any other military on earth.
So no, offensives are not hard. Russia just has a rotted out husk of a military that was obsolete in doctrine and equipment such that it couldn't even defeat a soviet-era opponent. Russia went into this war with a huge air force it couldn't use because no SEAD. A huge tank force it couldn't use because of modern ATGMs, of which Ukraine had a large number even before it got lots of Javelins. & a military that was starved of infantry and overly-mechanized which looks strong on paper but then ends up with major logistics and rear area defense problems.