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posted 3 years ago by TheImpossible1 3 years ago by TheImpossible1 +36 / -0
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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Referring to 14,000 deaths in Donbas without indicating that these were predominantly pro-Russian deaths at the hands of Ukrainians

Russia's military casualties (6,500 dead) were indeed much greater than the Ukrainian side's (4,400). They got beaten, boohoo, so sad.

Maybe they shouldn't have started it by invading (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/11/21/russias-igor-strelkov-i-am-responsible-for-war-in-eastern-ukraine-a41598), so they wouldn't get so trashed. (Applies to the current invasion too.)

The remaining 3,400 were civilians who killed by both sides caught between them. Among them 300 mostly Dutch foreigners killed by Russia in 1 day (and actually 1 minute), making 8% of all civilian victims.

Euphemizing the history of Neo-Nazi Stepan Bandera, claiming he simply “fought with the Germans against Soviet forces,” when in reality he was a key Hitler collaborator;

The dude doesn't even know what "Neo-Nazi" means, and after just few months Himmler put Bandera in the same concentration camp as he did with Stalin's son (Sachsenhausen). And Bandera's brothers were sent to Auschwitz (where they died), while his top aides were just unceremoniously shot after their arrest & interrogation by the Gestapo.

Stopped reading there because it's too stupid.

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– current_horror 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

civilians caught between both sides

That’ll happen when Ukraine uses their civilians as human shields.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's also happens when Russia "uses civilian as human shields" (while occupying a country, having invaded it while for almost a decade pretending they didn't). Firing Grads from around apartment buildings while people inside film it (the "Gaza" tactic: https://youtu.be/bmBkyn-GmTw https://youtu.be/wgbYQKIvVqM https://youtu.be/25_scHriTZQ https://youtu.be/zvIvdpYqW_Y), making fighting positions inside and on rooftops of the unevacuated buildings themselves, and so forth, since the beginning in 2014. The very first major clashes, such as the siege of the border guard HQ on the outskirts of Luhansk city from the adjoining apartment towers on June 2-4 (https://youtu.be/OLhu0TFLprA https://youtu.be/qPfe46dSeNk).

The 300 Dutch and Malaysian people in their plane certainly didn't "shield" anyone in the open sky. In just one moment, almost 1/10 of the entire civilian death toll of 8 years.

And then there were also just murders.

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