White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short: If Donald Trump Didn't Believe Accusations Were Credible, Trump Would Be In Alabama Campaigning For Roy Moore
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Source for Roy Moore winning a defemation case related to false statutory rape accusations.
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Objectively true.
That said, props to him for having the guts to sue people who lie about him, instead of rolling over and surrendering as is the Republican way.
Would depend on the age of the teens, right? 19 is still a teenager.
I agree. He was very smart about the statement he chose to sue over. It was obviously false and easy to disprove. He used to be a judge so I'd expect him to understand how defamation works, unlike that Vic Mignogna guy who stepped on a landmine with his lawsuit.
So the problem was that there were a ton of women who came forward, all teens, and all claiming he was hitting on them when he was in his 30s and a prosecutor. This was all in the late 1970s, so about 40 years before his election when this ALL came out, out of nowhere, AFTER he won the primary. It was a total Democrat ploy and it worked brilliantly. The lesson learned here is that you don't fucking run candidates who have these extreme vulnerability he had.
Leigh Corfman - who I think is a liar and a Democrat plant - accused him of raping her when she was 14. I think she made it up completely. They both sued each other and they both lost. She was the main accuser.
Beverly Young Nelson then claimed Moore creeped on her when she was 15 and sexually assaulted her at 16. "As evidence of her relationship with Moore, Nelson provided her high school yearbook, which included an entry by Moore, written about a week before the alleged assault.[26] Moore's entry reads: "To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas. Christmas 1977. Love, Roy Moore"" Again, the fact that a prosecutor in his 30s was writing that to a HS girl is already creep factor enough to piss off a lot of voters even if it was legal.
After this he got dogpiled by a bunch of other women claiming he creeped on them when they were teens, but didn't rape them or have sex with them.
Overall, it painted a picture of a dude who was obsessed with dating very young girls in his 30s, which might be 100% legal, but is still considered to be not socially acceptable. I would compare it to if he was a freak like that Biden appointee in the energy department that does puppy play. If Moore was a furry or into puppy play, even if legal, it's just too creepy to people and so he'd be unelectable.
Oh, hell no. Maybe the 16-year-old stuff is (and even that was widely practiced throughout history, while I disapprove of it), but dating 19-year-olds is in no way comparable to that disgusting subhuman.
Yeah I wasn't referring to dating a 19 year old I was referring to the many sources saying that he creeped on teen girls of all ages in his 30s.
I'm the libertarian type who pushes back against the overly aggressive age of consent laws and people trying to expand what pedo means. I don't think a guy is a bad guy for dating a teen girl in isolation, but when a large number of sources say that he was basically exclusively chasing jailbait and barely legal girls in his 30s that's creepy as hell and not what I want to see in a person I vote for.
It also really undermines the credibility of the Right to make groomers a wedge issue in elections and then back Moore, who seems like quite the groomer since there were a lot of women who said back when they were under 16 he creeped on them.
Never a good sign.
He definitely was a terrible candidate, and preying on 15-18 girls is very bad. That said, it's rather different from what the left does. This was the (imperfect) norm throughout history. Destroying their bodies is not.