Politico Saying The Quiet Part Out Loud
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No, it is very relevant because men supported women in their "murder of 65 million people." Men could have supported criminalization but don't and didn't. There is also more than just polling because pro-abortion politicians have won plenty of elections throughout the years with tons of male votes.
And so have anti abortion politicians, in fact men have repeatedly been told by women and men they deserve no voice in the conversation. So tell me who at the end of the day is accountable when only one party has complete legal control of abortion. You keep arguing that voicing support is the same as actions. I’m assuming you believe speech is violence too?
I said from the beginning that abortion is a unique issue because men cannot ever get them. Only women can possibly get them.
It's also not just "voicing an opinion." It's being complicit and supportive in all the events surrounding abortion, like allowing the clinics to operate. Short of paying directly for the abortion, persuading women to get them, and transporting women to the clinics ourselves (I have no data on how frequently any of that occurs), political support is the strongest support for abortion we can possibly give.
And there have been men who have killed abortion clinic doctors because they kill babies for a living. Once again I have no qualms saying I hate feminized men, this covers everyone you just claimed, but it is not the 90% you claimed, that was a fallacious claim. So once again, who other than the mother has the choice legally? This idea that only mothers can commit abortion is a lie, men have forced abortions throughout history. What IS UNIQUE is the overwhelming amount of ELECTIVE abortions in 50 years, so much so that even taking only a third of the total as true elective abortions still makes modern women the most violent group in human history. Think about that, there has not been a genocide as efficient as elective abortions. All male violence in the history of the US combined does not reach 1/3 of abortions in 50 years.
How many abortions have men committed?
What?
I can't believe I need to say this, but you and another person are in fact, two different people. As such, you can do things to yourself that you can't do to another person.
It doesn't. If a woman poisons a pregnant woman to trigger an abortion, that is illegal.
You keep comparing like and unlike actions. A more convincing argument might be to compare the rate at which men and women shove pregnant women down flights of stairs, poison them, and otherwise assault them in order to kill their fetuses. Alas, you have made no such comparisons.
And before you bitch about me equating men's political support for abortion with performing the act, I will once again remind you that I have to do that to an extent to compare men and women's contributions to abortion because there is no possible way for a man to get pregnant and thus have an abortion.
Do you have anything new to add, or are you going to keep repeating the same retarded shit over and over again? I'm getting tired of dealing with the thread depth crap.
Men don't just exist under abortion laws. Men support them to nearly the extent that women do.
A woman and a fetus are treated differently by the legal system. Men support this distinction nearly as strongly as women do.
There is nothing a man can possibly do to "abort" a fetus without the pregnant woman's consent that would be legal if another woman committed the act instead of a man. If a woman poisons a different, pregnant woman or punches a woman in the gut or whatever, that is illegal even though it's a woman doing it.
Given men's professed support for abortion, there is little to reason to think that, if men get somehow get pregnant, they would abort babies at anything other than a slightly lower rate than women do.
You keep harping on the same shit, but your case makes no sense because human reproduction is definitively and materially unequal. You are condemning women for doing something only women are capable of doing. Giving someone an abortion pill without their consent is poisoning. Again, poisoning someone is not the same is going to a clinic and getting a legal procedure done, and said procedure has been legal with nearly the same amount of support from men as it has from women.
Give me some data besides your endless whining about the abortion count. How supportive do you think men are of abortion? How does it compare to women's support? You keep ignoring that, regardless of what the "true" percent of men is, the preponderance of the evidence shows minimal gap between men and women.
That's not having an abortion. That's committing assault/battery/murder. Of course only a tiny portion of men will do that vs. the number of women who just drive to a clinic.