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Oh, it's you again. I remember--you're the guy who argues like a girlfriend. "You're doing this!" "You always do that!"
I'm not "doing" anything. I have said things, and you have said things. I think the things you have said in response to the things I have said are largely irrelevant, or are weird left-turn things that really don't have anything to do with what I've said. Telling people what their own "point" is is the argumentative tactic of a real internet-y fucking asshole. You should work on not doing that.
China has proven itself remarkably effective in getting what it wants out of the Western world, in some ways that are obvious, and in many ways I don't think we've even begun to recognize, but whose symptoms are clear. At the same time, they've managed to capture the overwhelming bulk of human beings' ability to make stuff, which is incredibly important. This is what I said, this is what I'm saying now. I don't really care about your opinions about social media and whatever, because social media doesn't make stuff. Maybe, when it comes to the knee-capping of the world economy by way of a global hysteria over a plague that never happened, some Middle Eastern players own the instrument, social media, that allowed this to happen. But they aren't the ones who played it, and that's what I'm interested in.
Imagine looking at people's names to formulate arguments based on prior interactions. And then calling me the girlfriend. But let's humor you.
This is what you said. When I pointed that towelheads managed incredible feats of World Destabilization too, you moved it to "tangible good manufacturing" as the only apparent metric, despite you yourself bringing up a point that had nothing to do with that. And then throwing in 99.8% to make it sound super scary, while the best I can find is somewhere between 25%-40% depending on source.
I don't particularly care about being an asshole. Most people will insult you when you call out their blatant failures in argumentation. Also, devolving into those insults and whining when called out is also pretty "internet fucking asshole-y" but I suppose that's the best you can do.
It doesn't matter if you care. Would mentioning Ebay, Motorola, Time Warner, Lyft, or Apple make you feel better though? Apple is pretty important because so much of that "stuff" that gets made is their stuff which means those Chinese dance for them. Time Warner (now Spectrum I believe) is also pretty important because it runs a huge majority of the American internet infrastructure, no Chinese involvement needed despite its cornerstone status. That's just one guy for the record, of the many.
China may own the manufacturing at the moment, but in order for that to have value they need a buyer. They can act tough and try to throw their weight around, and even scare some pathetic politicians into playing along, but if they were met with real opposition they would crumple quickly. Its a tenuous situation where both parties are too scared to truly attack the other and deal with the consequences, but most nations have the tech and historical understanding to bring that manufacturing back whereas China has no alternative to rebound with.
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